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Some people are aware of the quest I undertook to get fuel columns for my layout. It seems that everything is either HO or N scale, a Lionel/K-Line kit that lacks realism, is sold overseas, is made out of brass and would require me to take out a second mortgage, or has been sold out for years. After finally coming to the realization that I would have to come up with an alternative if I ever wanted to have fuel columns on my layout, I decided to build my own.

The parts list was pretty simple, and is as follows, with the detailed materials coming from the Narrow Gauge Modeling Co:

1. Valve (NGM-B051): http://www.narrowgaugemodeling...roduct/ngm-b051-new/

2. Pipe Elbow (NGM-B055): http://www.narrowgaugemodeling.com/product/ngm-h055/

After that, I purchased alum tubing from Hobby Lobby. The 3/32" tubing dry fits with the above pieces perfectly.

3. Aluminum Tubing 3/32": https://www.hobbylobby.com/Cra...Tubes---3-32/p/24126

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I dry fit the pipe elbow, just ensure that it would fit. It did.

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I also drilled out a hole in the pipe elbow (the wide portion) to accept a cutting from a paper clip. This is where I will connect the tubing (the sheath from black 18 gauge wire).

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After cutting the aluminum tubing to the size I felt was best, I then cut it about 1/3 of the way up from the base to insert the valve, and then used JB Weld to keep everything in place.

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Everything from Narrow Gauge comes in pairs, so there was enough to build two fuel columns. So after the epoxy cured overnight, I primed them.

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And then went with an acrylic metallic sterling silver to paint the columns. Used a Testors enamel paint to paint the valve wheels.

Here it is post first coat.

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I weathered them and the platform a bit and then got them on the layout. Don't have the nozzles yet. Have hose attached though.

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The process is not completed, but as I finish, I'll update this post. Current plans are to add a fuel nozzle (from Scale City Designs) , and some road details to the platform (people, fire extinguisher boxes, etc).

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modeltrainsparts posted:

Nice work, Deuce. From the photos I've seen, they seem to come in all shapes and sizes in the real world. Here's a photo of the one I built.

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Jackson, that's really impressive. I like how you have the hoses extra long. I wasn't going to do that, but I like the way it looks, so I may just steal that idea from you. That tubing looks very flexible, what did you use if you don't mind me asking?

Deuce, Thanks; as far as the idea goes, steal away with my compliments. One of the best things about this forum is the exchange of ideas.

Having tried all the old suggested methods of duplicating hose, I finally discovered solder. It's available in various diameters and is easily coiled or just laid on the ground and stays put. I paint it an appropriate color; in this case fuel is black and water tan. Rather than going to the expense of buying rolls of solder that I'll only use a few feet of in my entire life, I often find open rolls in yard sales for a quarter or two, or ask my plumber friends if I can buy a few feet. They usually give it to me.

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modeltrainsparts posted:

Deuce, Thanks; as far as the idea goes, steal away with my compliments. One of the best things about this forum is the exchange of ideas.

Having tried all the old suggested methods of duplicating hose, I finally discovered solder. It's available in various diameters and is easily coiled or just laid on the ground and stays put. I paint it an appropriate color; in this case fuel is black and water tan. Rather than going to the expense of buying rolls of solder that I'll only use a few feet of in my entire life, I often find open rolls in yard sales for a quarter or two, or ask my plumber friends if I can buy a few feet. They usually give it to me.

Jackson,

Solder! I would never have guessed. Thanks!

Richie C. posted:

Looks great Deuce, as does Jackson's.

Just wondering if you ever looked at the Plastruct site to see if they had any products that would work ?

I tried, but trying to make sense out of the search results for things like "nozzle" caused me to give up. Heck, I had to specifically ask for a fuel nozzle from Scale City Design because they don't have it on their website (I still don't know a part number). All I know is that they typically sell them in sets of 6, but sold me 2 for $1.25).

I might use one of the Plastruct tank kits though when I get the space.

sinclair posted:

With MTH not making theirs anymore (For some reason.) I might just have to follow this to make some of my own.  Thanks!

Uncannily enough. The day I completed assembling my own fuel columns, the MTH set popped up on eBay. I purchased it, just in case. They should arrive today, and I'll be sure to do a side by side comparison.

I honestly don't know why they don't produce it any longer. Seems like enough people are in search for something along these lines that there would be a market for it.  My goal now is to find appropriate figures. Trying to find an Arttista (or similar quality) "gas pumping" person.

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Deuce,

Thanks for your posting, I was going to make the same type fuel stands for diesel fueling, about two weeks ago I sent Marty a email at Scale City Design regarding a 1/48 scale fuel nozzle with a hose or without a hose. I have some very small diameter heat shrink that I was considering for use as a fuel line and also as a sanding hose. When Marty responds I will update whether a scale size nozzle is available. As for Plastruct they have a vertical twin tank assembly that can be used for diesel oil storage this is what I am going to use. Their catalog is a valuable asset for piping, tee, valves and a pump for unloading a diesel oil tank car  to fill these vertical tanks, I have ordered directly from Plastruct for detail parts without no issues. also I recommend using their cements to construct their products.   

These are the two fuel nozzles Scale City Designs have in stock.  I went with the traditional fuel pump nozzle on the right (even if it isn't entirely prototypical). I'll be interested in seeing just how big they are. I ordered a couple of spigots from Narrow Gauge, and they are miniscule to the point of unuseable for the fuel columns.

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John Ochab posted:

Deuce,

I am looking for the traditional fueling nozzle, can you provide the stock/item number from Scale City Designs.

Thanks

John,

I never got one from him. Sorry. Just send Marty the photo I posted of the nozzles and tell him you want the ones on the right.  That's how I handled my transaction with him.

John Ochab posted:

Deuce,

I am looking for the traditional fueling nozzle, can you provide the stock/item number from Scale City Designs.

Thanks

John we haven't assigned a part number for these yet as we are making them for our soon to be released gas pump. Its a  1940 Tokheim pump that will be available in two versions either LED lighted or not. This will be an accurate pump that was measured of a real prototype pump. So if you need some just email and ask for the gas pump handle. We also have a nozzle and hose for the sand delivery Part number 48-659  2/$4.00.

Deuce posted:
sinclair posted:

With MTH not making theirs anymore (For some reason.) I might just have to follow this to make some of my own.  Thanks!

Uncannily enough. The day I completed assembling my own fuel columns, the MTH set popped up on eBay. I purchased it, just in case. They should arrive today, and I'll be sure to do a side by side comparison.

I honestly don't know why they don't produce it any longer. Seems like enough people are in search for something along these lines that there would be a market for it.  My goal now is to find appropriate figures. Trying to find an Arttista (or similar quality) "gas pumping" person.

Argh, I keep missing those!  I always hear about the MTH set the day after it's sold.  If you decide not to keep them, let me know.

Richie C. posted:

Looks great Deuce, as does Jackson's.

Just wondering if you ever looked at the Plastruct site to see if they had any products that would work ?

I finally downloaded the Plastruct catalog, and it's a lot easier to navigate then their website (in my estimation). Lots of good information there, and I probably could have used their components to build the fuel columns. I do know that Narrow Gauge Railroading Co. was very helpful, and when you don't order many components, you can contact them directly and they will reduce their shipping prices (lower than the standard rate you can get through the website). They're very accessible through Facebook as well. 

Nice project and thank you for posting. Especially with details and links to parts used!! That really helps a lot for us greenhorns!  I really like these little detail projects and parts available for them. I hadn't heard or the Narrow Gauge website you linked either, now bookmarked and looks like a neat site for further investigation.

Also, FWIW, I am trying to learn more about Plastruct (& Evergreen) and the parts they offer for scratch building. One or the other offers a 'sample pack' that I ordered and they also sent me a catalog and price list. Sample pack is not expensive and has some interesting items in it. I believe they are all different as well. The catalog is very helpful and I now have a catalog form both Plastruct and Evergreen. Lots of neat stuff in those catalogs!! Just an FYI on their printed catalogs, I love printed catalogs!!

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