Can anyone tell me what the catalog # is for this Lionel Porthole Smoking Caboose. I need to order both end railings and I also need the smoke stack.
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Lionel never made a smoking N5c caboose. That is a modern remake. Note the broken truck. Some one added the radio antenna system and drilled for a smoke unit. maybe one of the smokejacks used on the wide vision or baywindow, or the N5 will work and fit. Railings are readily available.
@Grampstrains posted:Yes they did make a smoking N5c. 6-22111. The parts are listed on Lionel's repair parts site.
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The radio antenna system is an obvious ad-on.
This is the only smoking N5C Lionel had anything to do with, the 6-22110, and it was a K-Line car marketed by Lionel when they briefly took over K-Line after its demise. It was part of the No. 6-22104 3-car set. No telling what the OP's caboose is, but it's certainly not the 6-22110. Lionel shows it as 6-22111 at their parts site, most likely a typo error. (The picture of the shell shown at the parts site for the 22111 is exactly the same as the 22110.)
The OP's car is probably a homebuilt modification with a drilled out smokestack hole, like Chuck said, using an unknown body, postwar or otherwise.
It's a Lionel product, based on the postwar design. The smoke unit and trainphone antennas are correct. It was not based on the K-Line tooling or designs, nor was it homebuilt.
That looks likely to be the unpainted, engineering pilot sample for the 2004 6-52320 Pennsylvania Porthole Caboose. It was included with the Pennsylvania version of the TCA 50th Anniversary Freight Set, led by a Pennsylvania FM. TCA had big plans for the set, but the sales missed the targets by a mile.
Lionel has used the porthole design with the trainphone antennas and separate stack a few times since 2004, but I'm uncertain if they included a smoke unit or not.
To answer the OP's question, the end railings in unpainted black are 6417-10 (or 600-6417-010 in the current numbering scheme) and these will be available through many parts dealers. The stack is 650-2320-006, but Lionel is sold-out, and I doubt you'd find these anywhere but there.
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I don't normally disagree with Todd, But it is not a Lionel sample, but home built.
It is a postwar body, note no marker light holes. I have never seen any listings for parts for a smoking LIONEL N5c. K-line, yes. It is on modern trucks. It would also require drilling out the clear plastic window insert. The way the end rails are broken show they are made out of postwar styrene plastic, not the more modern plastic that has some flexibility. Can you provide an inside picture?
@PaperTRW posted:It's a Lionel product, based on the postwar design. The smoke unit and trainphone antennas are correct. It was not based on the K-Line tooling or designs, nor was it homebuilt.
That looks likely to be the unpainted, engineering pilot sample for the 2004 6-52320 Pennsylvania Porthole Caboose. It was included with the Pennsylvania version of the TCA 50th Anniversary Freight Set, led by a Pennsylvania FM. TCA had big plans for the set, but the sales missed the targets by a mile.
Lionel has used the porthole design with the trainphone antennas and separate stack a few times since 2004, but I'm uncertain if they included a smoke unit or not.
To answer the OP's question, the end railings in unpainted black are 6417-10 (or 600-6417-010 in the current numbering scheme) and these will be available through many parts dealers. The stack is 650-2320-006, but Lionel is sold-out, and I doubt you'd find these anywhere but there.
TRW
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@Chuck Sartor posted:I don't normally disagree with Todd, But it is not a Lionel sample, but home built.
It is a postwar body, note no marker light holes. I have never seen any listings for parts for a smoking LIONEL N5c. K-line, yes. It is on modern trucks. It would also require drilling out the clear plastic window insert. The way the end rails are broken show they are made out of postwar styrene plastic, not the more modern plastic that has some flexibility. Can you provide an inside picture?
Chuck, in the early 2000's I had new side inserts made to restore all the rivet detail and remove the MPC-era marker lights on the porthole caboose. In addition, the grab rails were separate wire forms. (I also had rivet detail restored on a bunch of other tooling, but that's another story.) This was about the time of the 6-31726 rolling stock add-ons for the Century Club II Sharks or maybe earlier for another project that's slipping my mind at the moment.
For the TCA 50th Anniversary Set project in 2004, the trainphone antennas and smoke unit were added. Mike Braga was handling club cars, so I was only involved on the periphery of the project. A photo of the finished 6-52320 caboose can be found here:
https://images.app.goo.gl/AvWHUP3z8z9qTvR87
The operation of the smoke unit is described on page 29 of the instruction manual for the TCA set:
https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/75-2311-250.pdf
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Lionel with antenia. and large mount smoke stack.
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OK, I am convinced. So maybe it is a prototype he has?
The 52320 looks the same, even the design of the trainphone supports, so the prototype idea seems right. Interesting information from PaperTRW. The Lionel parts site shows "0 Records Found" for both the 52320 and the 36682 harleyhouse showed, so any parts would have to be substituted from another source, as PaperTRW referred to.
Does anyone know when the 6-36682 or 6-81371 Porthole Caboose with Antenna was produced?
