Chased 3/13/17 - NS 098 With GE Exports Pakistan Railways ES43ACi's NS Youngstown Line From Dorset to Hubbard Ohio

Thanks Mike for liking my topic.

Nice catch Tom. Thanks for sharing.

russ

pennsyfanman posted:

Nice catch Tom. Thanks for sharing.

 

russ

Thank You. Also from reading on TO's they passed the Cresson cam at 12:30AM.

Nice to see a positive contribution to our balance of trade.  Pretty substantial locomotives - didn't know Pakistan was so advanced. Anyone know what the Pakistan Ry gauge is? What service they are intended for?

Tom,

 Great video very interesting topic

JohnB

mark s posted:

Nice to see a positive contribution to our balance of trade.  Pretty substantial locomotives - didn't know Pakistan was so advanced. Anyone know what the Pakistan Ry gauge is? What service they are intended for?

Well to help some, I did read Pakistan Railway does Rail Transport, Cargo, Transport, Parcel Carrier & Catering.

As for the track gauge, here's what Wikipedia has, and generally wikipedia for trains is mostly right.

Pakistan Railways owns 11,881 kilometres (7,383 mi) of track, with a mixture of gauges. The majority of tracks is 1,676 mm (5 ft 6 in) (broad gauge). Pakistan Railways is undergoing a project to convert remaining 1,000 mm (3 ft 3 ³⁄₈ in) (metre gauge) and 762 mm (2 ft 6 in) (narrow gauge). The project will be complete by 2025.

As for the rest - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Railways

 I was just looking on youtube of GEU-40 and this was a recent video uploaded on Feb 20th, 2017 which of course isn't mine but sharing.

And also March 11th, 2017.

Also here's a recent reply from Train Orders about the gauge and order of these units.

Pakistan 5'6" gauge ES43ACi, part of an order for 55

Acctually what I'll do to add to some fun, I'll 5 photos a day from this day. These are the same photos at the end of the video. These 5 photos are from Ayers Road in Dorset Ohio. So these are 5 photos down, 65 more to go. So by Monday March 27th, all the photos will be uploaded.

nice catch...always look forward to your railfan finds

willygee posted:

nice catch...always look forward to your railfan finds

Thanks Willy. Glad you like the photos and video I do.

there's something you don't see every day!

Pardon a stupid question, but if these are broad gauge, 5'6", how are they moved over US standard gauge?

colorado hirailer posted:

Pardon a stupid question, but if these are broad gauge, 5'6", how are they moved over US standard gauge?

The trucks on cars and the engine on others. See video.

Thanks, Tom, Jr.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone have a train like that on their layout. I looked up the cars, they are in the 89' foot series with a 231,000 lb. load capacity.

Thanks to your steady recording.

Moonman posted:

Thanks, Tom, Jr.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone have a train like that on their layout. I looked up the cars, they are in the 89' foot series with a 231,000 lb. load capacity.

Thanks to your steady recording.

Well I will change the description about the 90'. I guess I was close though. I put that, because other friends of mine mentioned 90'. Yes, I know I have gotten better recording. I use a tripod for all my videos now. Also I'm trying to be better on taking my photos to try and get better angles. One thing I know, I don't care for up close videos or photos I do because I don't get the whole engine in the view. Only time I do up close video or photos is when either the train is right there about a mile away and have limited amount of time to get set up as like in the first video from Dorset where I crossed the tracks and seen a light and he was less then a mile away. I did not know he was going to be going 25MPH. Only time I pan the camera now is if it's a Heritage Unit, Special Interest or a Special Move like I got here yesterday. And to anwser Colorado Hirailers question, when GE or EMD produces Exports, they generally put them right away on flatcars unless they match U.S. tracks. 

colorado hirailer posted:

Pardon a stupid question, but if these are broad gauge, 5'6", how are they moved over US standard gauge?

Apparently you didn't watch the video, the units have been loaded on special flatcars, while the bogies (the proper term for foreign diesel trucks) have been loaded on different flatcars.

Hot Water posted:

colorado hirailer posted:

Pardon a stupid question, but if these are broad gauge, 5'6", how are they moved over US standard gauge?

Apparently you didn't watch the video, the units have been loaded on special flatcars, while the bogies (the proper term for foreign diesel trucks) have been loaded on different flatcars.

Jack, you are correct. The first 9 flatcars are the bogie trucks and the other 9 are the units. 

Very cool!! Quite a sight. Neat seeing the trucks on separate cars. Thanks for catching this train, Tom.

Do you post photos on TrainOrders, too?

Jim

This is a cool video. I actually saw these locomotives on their flat cars on a siding between Erie and Buffalo back over Thanksgiving weekend while I was taking the Lake Shore Limited to Rochester. I wondered what they were since I had never seen any markings like those in the past. I was wishing I had time to snap a picture, but moving at 70+ mph, that wasn't going to happen.

-Marc 

EBT JIM: Thanks. Actually I heard they were suppost to be put on NS Freight 14M to Conway, but were just put a this train. As for Train Orders, yes I do, I'm Corner Field Hobby Railfan. Here's the topic on TO's right now - http://www.trainorders.com/dis...n/read.php?2,4248450  

PITTSBURGER: Wow now that is cool. Yea if they didn't have the PR or the GEU-40 under the cab windows, I would have not known what railroad these were going to. But I do say, this units almost look then certain diesels running today in the U.S. Sorry to hear you didn't get photos. Yes Amtrak does run fast along the Lake Shore. Near my area, I saw Amtrak 48 with the #156 Heritage leading back in July 2016, but he was going 80MPH through Madison as seen below in the video.

Also if anyone is interested, you can see my videos today I do don't have Opening Credits anymore. Now I just go with the video first and of course the picture, but keep the 5 second credits at the end for my copyright.

Here are 5 more photos which are still at Ayers Road in Dorset Ohio.

5' 6" gauge.......pretty good sized.  but, one might guess the loading gauge is relatively light.  Thanks, Tom Jr.

Very interesting and informative videos

The locos look like a smiling kid who just lost their front teeth.

Nice catch and back story.

mark s posted:

5' 6" gauge.......pretty good sized.  but, one might guess the loading gauge is relatively light.  Thanks, Tom Jr.

The predominant track gauge in India, Bangladesh & Sri-Lanka is also the same 1,676 mm (5’6”). There are some cross-border trains between India & Pakistan, during peacetimes that run on this track gauge. I was born in India & lived there for 23 years before moving to America. When I lived there, the mainline infrastructure was built to 25-ton axle load, but the axle loads of the freight cars were restricted to 20.3 tons. But they are now increasing axle loads due to the Dedicated Freight Corridors under construction.

The only advantage I can think of, for broad-gauge is that you could stack containers on regular flat-cars (not depressed well-cars) & the center-of-gravity would still be within allowable limits, as seen in the following photo, I found online. So even more containers for a given train-length than even double-stack cars seen here in North America.

These are just my opinion.

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

Tom, very cool. You d'man!

Wow, thank you to everyone who has replied. To NAVEENRAJAN comment, that's a very interesting photo. I've never seen Intermodal Containers on flatcar that don't have sides like Intermodal Well Cars.

Anyway, here are 5 more photos. The top photo on this post is still at Dorset heading south. The next 4 below that is from Route 322 at Williamsfield / Wick Ohio.

Thanks to naveen too, neat shots.

Here's the next 5 still from Route 322 in Williamsfield / Wick.

Nice shots! Boy, they are ugly buggers..............

Thanks Paul. 

By the way, so everyone knows, 2 people that obviously live in Pakistan stole my videos and posted them on there youtube channel. Here's both URL's - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNHI36NTBys    &    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTO1anI4gWo   I've sent a youtube report. Hope though's videos get deleted. You can even see in one that I have the copyright at the end of the video.

5 more photos still at Route 322.

Very cool!

Here's the next 15 as I missed Sunday & Monday and also adding photos today. The first 4 photos are still at Route 322 in Williamsfield. The next 5 after that are 1.5 miles south of 322 but still in Williamsfield along Hayes Road. Then the next after that are from Route 87 in Kinsman / Gustavus Ohio.

What port will these be shipped out of and that would be great to see them being loaded onto a ship.

Jimmy T posted:

What port will these be shipped out of and that would be great to see them being loaded onto a ship.

I guess from my understanding, they were headed for Maryland. From there I don't know what port they go to.

Next 15 photos. Top 6 are still at Route 87 and the next 4 are at Cornith / Johnston Ohio at Route 88.

And to add 5 this evening, the top 3 are still at Route 88 and the next 2 are are Everett Hull Road in Fowler Ohio.

Here's the next 10 photos. First 6 are still at Everett Hull Rd. in Fowler Ohio. And the 4 after that are at King Graves Road in Brookfield Ohio south of Fowler Ohio and east of Vienna Ohio.