Clearing the Right of Way for my New O Scale Layout UPDATE #4 NEW pics, March 2, 2020

Great looking space, also looks like a very nice lathe.

Steve

Rescued Trains posted:

Great looking space, also looks like a very nice lathe.

Steve

Thanks, and yes it is a Jet 16x40" EVS and no more room for it.  I will be selling it.  Part of clearing the Right of Way.  Beautiful lathe though and hardly ever used it.

Somebody really does nice conduit work.

FWIW, I too shared my RR with a wood working shop.  Three large Delta air cleaners for friable dust and two 4" vacuum systems for chips but the dust problem still lingered. 

The remedy was to take  the main offenders; the table saw, 12" disk sander,  and router operation out to the garage leaving manageable dust for my cleaning systems.

No supposively well thought out maneuver goes unpunished.  My gasoline powered tools even though covered at all times, get saw dust in their intakes.

The RR kind of took over the basement and only minor woodworking in the staging room occurs now.

Photo shows dust collection pickup for 1 1/8" wire management holes.  This close in pickup yields no friable dust:

It sucks when you have to sell one set of toys to make room for another set of toys.

Nice shop- can't wait to see the train room !

Bob

Tom Tee posted:

Somebody really does nice conduit work.

FWIW, I too shared my RR with a wood working shop.  Three large Delta air cleaners for friable dust and two 4" vacuum systems for chips but the dust problem still lingered. 

The remedy was to take  the main offenders; the table saw, 12" disk sander,  and router operation out to the garage leaving manageable dust for my cleaning systems.

No supposively well thought out maneuver goes unpunished.  My gasoline powered tools even though covered at all times, get saw dust in their intakes.

The RR kind of took over the basement and only minor woodworking in the staging room occurs now.

Photo shows dust collection pickup for 1 1/8" wire management holes.  This close in pickup yields no friable dust:

Thanks, I did the conduit work.  I used to be a commercial electrician.  My house, shop and other buildings are run in conduit.  Never liked romax.

RSJB18 posted:

It sucks when you have to sell one set of toys to make room for another set of toys.

Nice shop- can't wait to see the train room !

Bob

Yes it does, big time.  I am selling a Rockwell/Delta,  shaper,  jointer,  and unisaw too.  I am 63 and I am transitioning into to my model railroad and away from work working.  Much cleaner hobby.

dan 77 posted:

RSJB18 posted:

It sucks when you have to sell one set of toys to make room for another set of toys.

Nice shop- can't wait to see the train room !

Bob

Yes it does, big time.  I am selling a Rockwell/Delta,  shaper,  jointer,  and unisaw too.  I am 63 and I am transitioning into to my model railroad and away from work working.  Much cleaner hobby.

Just make sure you keep enough of the tools to build the layout.

dan 77 posted:

Tom Tee posted:

Somebody really does nice conduit work.

FWIW, I too shared my RR with a wood working shop.  Three large Delta air cleaners for friable dust and two 4" vacuum systems for chips but the dust problem still lingered. 

The remedy was to take  the main offenders; the table saw, 12" disk sander,  and router operation out to the garage leaving manageable dust for my cleaning systems.

No supposively well thought out maneuver goes unpunished.  My gasoline powered tools even though covered at all times, get saw dust in their intakes.

The RR kind of took over the basement and only minor woodworking in the staging room occurs now.

Photo shows dust collection pickup for 1 1/8" wire management holes.  This close in pickup yields no friable dust:

Thanks, I did the conduit work.  I used to be a commercial electrician.  My house, shop and other buildings are run in conduit.  Never liked romax.

That is a good idea for dust collection.   I have two Grizzly hanging filters that worked fairly well, but I should have installed a central dust collection like you did, alas I did not have the money.   Ironically when I sell my wood working equipment I will have money to install a central dust collection system for the equipment I will no longer have!!

RSJB18 posted:

dan 77 posted:

RSJB18 posted:

It sucks when you have to sell one set of toys to make room for another set of toys.

Nice shop- can't wait to see the train room !

Bob

Yes it does, big time.  I am selling a Rockwell/Delta,  shaper,  jointer,  and unisaw too.  I am 63 and I am transitioning into to my model railroad and away from work working.  Much cleaner hobby.

Just make sure you keep enough of the tools to build the layout.

Oh yes I will do that.

UPDATE:  Clearing the Right of Way  Jan. 27, 2020

I have finished installing the top plates for my new walls.  It was a lot of ladder work for old knees.  I am posting some more photos for your perusal.   I will have to move out the other equipment/benches before I can start on the bottom plates. 

UPDATE #2  Feb. 6, 2020

I have made a bit of progress on the train room.  Here are a few photos:

UPDATE #2 additional comments.  Feb. 6, 2020

I am designing a U shape bench(all 2 x 4 's) with the level terrain sections using open grid bench work design.  The mountain section will be a beefed up L girder design( I am sure Mr. Wescott will approve) with 2 x 4 joists topped with a 1 x 3.  I used an L girder design for all three versions of my N scale layouts, however 15 years ago 1x lumber was cheaper than 2x lumber and usually very straight.  Now 2x lumber is cheaper than 1x lumber and you really have to look through the lumber bins to find a few really straight pieces of 1x lumber.

Dan77...that is nice conduit work. I too was a commercial electrician. Spent 35 yrs with IBEW 540. My favorite part of the job was building racks of conduit.  Retired now and am anxious to start a layout of my own. Good luck with yours.....you're well on your way.

jini5 posted:

Dan77...that is nice conduit work. I too was a commercial electrician. Spent 35 yrs with IBEW 540. My favorite part of the job was building racks of conduit.  Retired now and am anxious to start a layout of my own. Good luck with yours.....you're well on your way.

Thanks jini5.  I hear you.  I liked working in the mechanical rooms with the unistrut  and clamping the conduit neatly into place.   I  always prefered to stay in one room rather than run conduit/boxes for lighting all over a commercial building, usually on top of scaffolding.  LOL.  I hope you get started on your layout soon.

Thanks for the photos and info on your progress.

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Dan77, Thank you for the updates.  You are moving along!   

It seems I have been clearing ROW for layouts since our oldest daughter was 2.  She will turn 29 soon.  Both girls have been married and own their own homes, but now some major work needing done in the elder's home has encroached on my space again!    Back to the drawing room, Deja vu all over again!!

Pingman posted:

Thanks for the photos and info on your progress.

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Ok, thanks.  I will do that.

Mark Boyce posted:

Dan77, Thank you for the updates.  You are moving along!   

It seems I have been clearing ROW for layouts since our oldest daughter was 2.  She will turn 29 soon.  Both girls have been married and own their own homes, but now some major work needing done in the elder's home has encroached on my space again!    Back to the drawing room, Deja vu all over again!!

Thanks Mark.  It 's a journey.  I have identical twin daughters that just turned 30 last month.  They are married, and both own their homes too.  Small world.  Yogi Berra was right!   

UPDATE #3  We have Bench work!!!!!   Feb. 17,  2020

I snapped a few photos of my progress.  It's starting to look like a train room.  I started with a basic U shape for bench work but I added more length to right side leg... so I guess it is now an elongated U?  I have a 2'  aisle all the way around to avoid any access problems.  At the moment I am only working on the left side leg.  Nothing really done for the right side leg yet.

Looks great!

Thanks Mark.  It's coming along now.

Foolish question here from an old-timer.  Does the second level of horizontal lumber (let's call it shelving) near the floor provide the same amount of sturdiness to the benchwork construction as the old diagonal bracing that used to be placed in the corners and between the legs?  I kind of worry about somebody leaning on an end of your benchwork and watching the whole thing collapse toward the other side.  Didn't Westcott recommend gussets or diagonal bracing?

Chuck

dan 77 posted:

UPDATE #3  We have Bench work!!!!!   Feb. 17,  2020 

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PRR1950 posted:

Foolish question here from an old-timer.  Does the second level of horizontal lumber (let's call it shelving) near the floor provide the same amount of sturdiness to the benchwork construction as the old diagonal bracing that used to be placed in the corners and between the legs?  I kind of worry about somebody leaning on an end of your benchwork and watching the whole thing collapse toward the other side.  Didn't Westcott recommend gussets or diagonal bracing?

Chuck

Yes it does.   Westcott  recommended diagonal bracing because he used 1x4 and 1x2 lumber.   Whenever you connect a a rectangular frame with a solid sheet of plywood, it constitutes diagonal bracing on all four corners.  I can assure you leaning on an end of my bench work will not cause anything to collapse.  The bench work will get a 5/8 inch plywood top as well which further strengthens it.

Pingman posted:

dan 77 posted:

UPDATE #3  We have Bench work!!!!!   Feb. 17,  2020 

Suggestion:  Edit the thread's title and include your Update # and date.  Doing so alerts readers like me that you have posted new info/photos.

Ok, I assume you refer to  the very first post?  I did update the first post with the current number and date about 1 minute ago.   If this is not what you mean, please advise.  Thanks.

dan 77 posted:

Pingman posted:

dan 77 posted:

UPDATE #3  We have Bench work!!!!!   Feb. 17,  2020 

Suggestion:  Edit the thread's title and include your Update # and date.  Doing so alerts readers like me that you have posted new info/photos.

Ok, I assume you refer to  the very first post?  I did update the first post with the current number and date about 1 minute ago.   If this is not what you mean, please advise.  Thanks.

No, not your first post in this thread.  I mean edit the thread's title "Clearing the Right of Way for my New O Scale Layout."  You edit the title by clicking on the "Take Action" blue tab in the lower right hand corner of your FIRST POST.  Select the "edit" choice and change the thread's title to include the phrase "Updated 2/17 with photos" or something like that.

Good luck.

Ok, now I got it.  I used the update button previously but I edited the body not the title.  Thanks, Carl

Well Done, Dan.

Update #4 March 2, 2020

I have some plywood down and sound board glued down on the plywood.  Playing with the two mainline loops to determine drill holes for bus wire feeds...etc.  I am really pleased with the sound board/wall sheathing as it it does muffle sound very well.  

Looks great!

Thanks Mark.  The two loops are the bottom portion of the elongated U shaped layout.  The right side leg of the U(as you look at the photo) is the yard lead/container port with a reverse loop. 

A quick question:  I am considering buying a turntable, however, I can only afford the Atlas.   What experience have you guys had with the Atlas turntable??   Pros/cons.  Worth it or should I forget the turntable idea.