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After negotiations with the wife on the size of the living room Christmas layout (7' x 3') I got to thinking. I can get 1", 1.5" or 2" foam insulation board and back it with a 1/8" utility panel. So, what is the best way to get a clean cut through the 4' x 8' foam insulation board? And can I just drill with a hole saw to open up pass throughs for the wires?

The artificial tree is going to come up through to minimize lost space on the layout. But the tree needs to go in before the board so I will need to cut a channel to slide it around the tree. The tree has individual branches so we can get them up off the layout by omitting the bottom few layers.

TIA

Frank

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It depends on the thickness.  Below 2" you can just cut through with a utility knife.  It gets trickier with the 2" foam.  I've tried a jigsaw, hot wire cutter, a bread knife but the easiest way was to get a utility knife with a 1" blade and score the foam sheet to that depth and then just punch down to split it apart.  You'll have to clamp a straight edge when you go to score it as it takes some force but it will break cleanly.   I literally just did that 3 weeks ago with 2" green foam (like the pink and blue) for my around the room layout.

You can punch holes or drill for wires.  Personally I will be using a hot wire 'knife' to punch through:

Hot wire foam cutter

-Greg

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@TedW posted:

John, not my experience, but cutting slower will render better results.  To keep the demo video short, I cut fast and the blade heated which melts the foam.  Note at the start of the video the first half of the cut is smooth.  I have only used blue board, so I can’t speak to other types of foam.

I'll try it at a slower speed.  My jigsaw is variable.

Thanks,

John

@Craftech posted:

I'll try it at a slower speed.  My jigsaw is variable.

Thanks,

John

The issue I had with the jigsaw and soft material blade was vibration and keeping it straight even with using a straight-edge as a guide - the blade would bend from the denseness of the foam as I increased the pressure to hold the saw in a straight line.   I found it was much easier to just score and break - especially in trimming an 8' section to a diameter of less than 4' as one side of my layout is only 3.5 ' wide.  Your mileage may vary.

-Greg

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Used all the above. Best I've found is a Harbor Freight electric oscillating tool, using the 4" three quarter round, cardboard and leather cutting blade. Once you try it, you'll never go back to anything else. Great for all types of foam. For straight cuts, clamp a board to the foam on your line and keep the blade against it.  Your edge will look like a factory cut.

I use a jig saw with a knife edge blade or Dremel multi-max. The multi-max is great for carving and shaping the foam too. I won't use a hot wire cutter since the fumes from the foam are toxic.

Bosch T113A3 3-Piece 4 In. Knife Edge Special for Soft Materials T-Shank Jig Saw Blades

I agree with John- table saws can be tricky. Having said that, I've watched carpenters and masons use skill saws on construction sites for years with no problems.

@RSJB18 posted:

I agree with John- table saws can be tricky. Having said that, I've watched carpenters and masons use skill saws on construction sites for years with no problems.

Once I realized that the foam was very "grabby" in the table saw, I was able to finish my cutting, but it's certainly not something that I'd want a steady diet of.  There's a lot of "launch power" in that blade, it could get exciting if you slip!

I have not figured out a way to laser cut all foam boards without poisoning the air with chorine gas.

EVA foam is a good alternative, as well as polyurethane foam  both can be laser cut as well a foam-core boards.

XPS is extruded polystyrene foam that cuts too. Most often seen as the blue “Styrofoam” or pink “Foamular” rigid insulation foam you can get in building supply stores. EPS is expanded polystyrene foam made of lots of little foam pellets that is most often seen as packaging or as the material in cheap coolers. EPS is what most people think of when they think of “Styrofoam”.

the laser will do very detailed intricate cuts but if too small a flame will destroy it.

I used a fat max razor knife, the one with the long  and wide, ( 1inch or so) blade in a retractable handle. I found the blades could be sharpened with a fine sharpening stone to improve cutting. I used a straight edge and freehand cut radius turns. I was able to cut up to 3 inch thick pink board, (2 + 1 inch) . Score and repeat then again if necessary then snap.

There are several types, I used the type with a locking thumb screw on the blade. It also doesn’t produce much pink dust.

It became a go to tool and worked well.

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@laz1957 posted:

Table saw without a doubt is the best way to get a straight cut.  Take your time and have blade one inch above the foam board.  This said and having been a Industrial Arts teacher teaching wood shop, for over 30 years and yes I still have my fingers is in my opinion to cutting straight edges.  But you can do what’s best for you.  Good Luck.

That may have been my mistake, I don't think I extended the blade much above the foam, so it was probably cutting toward me more than down.  Good point for the future.

The table saw does make a LOT of blue (or pink) dust!

Circumference = 2 x pi x Radius

where pi = about 3.14.

Because Diameter = 2 x Radius,

Circumference = pi x Diameter.

For a 7” diameter blade, circumference = 3.14 x 7 = 21.98”.

For a 10” diameter blade, circumference = 3.14 x 10” = 31.4”.

The ratio of the circumferences for the 10” to 7” blades is about 1.5 (31.4” / 20.98” = 1.50).

So for a given rpm, the teeth of the 10” blade cover 1.5 times the distance of the 7” blade.  The teeth on the 10” blade travel 1.5 times as fast as the teeth on the 7” blade.

This is the same concept as why your 10-speed bicycle travels faster in 10th gear than in 6th gear.  

Hope this clarifies

I know about circumference, I was simply pointing out that the blade spins at the same speed.  As to the difference in kickback for cutting foam, I'd have to try it to know if it would make a difference.

In any case, this is a moot point.  I just cranked the blade up fully on my DeWalt DW745 Jobsite saw, and the 10" blade protrudes 3.25" above the table.  Given that fact, a 7" blade would not fully cut 2" foam as it would only protrude 1.75" above the table.

I question the veracity that a 7” blade spins slower than a 10”.  Aren’t they both powered by the same motor at the same speed.  Either way, I don’t think it’s going to make much difference.  I wouldn’t cut sheet goods on a table saw anyway. Too hard to maneuver and overkill.  Put it on a set of horses and use a skilsaw.  Or use whatever you have.  I prob wouldn’t cut foam board with a saw anyway, too much dust for no reason.  I’d cut one side with a utility knife, snap it at the seam and cut the back half if necessary.  Like a sheet of drywall.   Don’t over analyze, just get it built.  Cheers.

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I can attest to the good result with the Bosch soft materials jigsaw blade. I tried a hot knife first and it was a mess with lots of fumes. The Bosch blade worked perfectly with no dust. The trick is using a variable speed jigsaw and setting the speed slow enough that the blade doesn’t burn the foam but fast enough to get a clean edge and not have the blade edge catch and bounce the jigsaw all over the place.  I used a Hitachi jigsaw and the speed can be dialed down quite a bit.

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