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Pardon the name, this ins't supposed to be negative criticism on O Gauge, but rather a few ideas for O Scale manufacturers...

SDP45:


Road names include Erie Lackawanna, Union Pacific, Conrail, Burlington Northern, Great Northern, and many Southern Pacific paint schemes.

SD45-2:


Road Names include Santa Fe, Clinchfield, Seaboard Coast Line, Erie Lackawanna, BNSF, Norfolk Southern, Conrail, CSX, MRL.

MTH offered their rendition of this locomotive, but it was actually just an SD45 painted like a Dash 2.

Various EMD Widecab units:

SD60M "Triclops":


Roadnames include Burlington Northern, Union Pacific, Soo Line, Canadian Pacific, BNSF, Norfolk Southern.

SD60I:


Roadnames include Conrail, Norfolk Southern and CSX.

All that would be needed to make this engine in O scale would be a die insert to make the gasket for the I cab, the rest of the engine is identical to an SD60M.

SD70I/SD75I:


Roadnames include CN, BNSF, Santa Fe, and now Norfolk Southern.

This engine falls into the same scenario that the SD60I does, all MTH has to do to make this engine is put an I cab gasket on the SD70M.

SD70MAC: (not a fake one like Lionel and MTH)


Roadnames include BNSF, Burlington Northern, Conrail, KCS, TFM, and CSX.

While both Lionel and MTH have produced an SD70MAC, the Lionel one is actually and SD60M and the MTH is an SD70M.

K-Line did make a correct SD70MAC many years ago, but Lionel did not use this die for their latest run of SD70MACs.

C32-8/B39-8:


Roadnames include Conrail, Ballast Express, CSX and NS for C32-8, Santa Fe for B39-8.

GE "Super 7" Series:


Roadnames include Monongehela, GE Demonstrator, Conrail, CSX, and various Ohio Central schemes for the 4 Axle version, along with GECX and a few Mexican roadnames for the 6 Axle version.


Feel free to respond with your own want-to-have engines, I want to hear them!
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I am in for the Ace 3000 too! even if a Legacy with all the bells and whistles!

 

I would take one in Conrail and demo model!

 

as far as other locos are concerned:

 

ALCo C636 

Demo, Conrail, PC [PRR-yeah stretching it but the PRR did order them] IC, CN Cartier, SPS, BN, UP, MK, DL[ex CR, ex Pc]

 

ALCo C430

ALCo T6

GE u30b,33b,36B

GE B36-7,C36-7, C39-8[ the REAL Darth Vader loco]

EMD Gp40-2 phase II, SD60M Tri clopse, SD60MAC, sd70[standard cab]

Originally Posted by CNJ 3676:

During the 70s, Santa Fe rebuilt over two hundred F-units into CF7s at its Cleburne, TX shops. As ATSF eventually retired them, they were sold literally all over the country to second hand purchasers so a potential manufacturer of an O scale model would have no shortage of road names and paint schemes from which to choose.

 

Bob

   

CF7A

CF7B

CF7C

CF7D

CF7E

CF7F

CF7G

Aww, you stole my idea! 

The only problem with CF7's is the phases that Santa Fe went through while rebuilding them. Cab variations, hood variations, etc. And these variations ended up all in different places afterward. So, while there are many many options for painting them, it's entirely restricted to the options provided by one variation and not all of them collectively. Personally I like the Topeka cab versions.

 

I've always liked those Super 7's.

 

A fully accurate version of an SD60 would be nice to see.

 

Trevor

 

 

Comments on the SD70MAC....Lionel's is actually a hybrid of an SD60M and an SD70MAC. It has hood details from both. They do this on purpose, it allows them to produce multiple different engines off of one common tooling. While they haven't made an SD60M to my knowledge, they did make the SD60 and a few totally wrong SD70M's. They did the same thing on the Dash 8/Dash 9 hybrid. To the untrained eye they can get away with it very well.

 

And actually, just letting go of the hood inaccuracies on the SD70MAC, I'm 99% positive an SD60I/SD70I/SD75I (or anything with a whisper cab) can be made. Take a look at their the SD80/90MAC

 

Trevor

Y'all must be narrowing down everything to an Athearn comparable version in O as legitimate because because you dis the MTH and Lionel versions and ignore the brass versions of many of the above things already made or in line to be made.  So you are right.

 

And Atlas already has a U23B.  When it will be delivered??? But it's on their list.

 

My list, which includes MTH and Lionel and brass;

 

GP39, GP39-2 phase I, II or III, GP49, GP59, GP/SD59ECO, SDL39, U30CG.

I'd like to see a correct model of a GP-39-2 for Reading Lines. Williams makes a GP-38 model for Reading Lines, but Reading Lines never ran GP-38's.

Another model I'd like to see is a GP-35 for Reading & Northern, the regional line near Hamburg PA.

Either Lionel, MTH or Atlas could make some of those models, as Williams by Bachmann will never make them.

 

Lee Fritz

Originally Posted by phillyreading:

I'd like to see a correct model of a GP-39-2 for Reading Lines. Williams makes a GP-38 model for Reading Lines, but Reading Lines never ran GP-38's.

Another model I'd like to see is a GP-35 for Reading & Northern, the regional line near Hamburg PA.

Either Lionel, MTH or Atlas could make some of those models, as Williams by Bachmann will never make them.

 

Lee Fritz

I agree, I really believe that attention to small details makes a big difference....

Originally Posted by Steven Michael:
Originally Posted by phillyreading:

I'd like to see a correct model of a GP-39-2 for Reading Lines. Williams makes a GP-38 model for Reading Lines, but Reading Lines never ran GP-38's.

Another model I'd like to see is a GP-35 for Reading & Northern, the regional line near Hamburg PA.

Either Lionel, MTH or Atlas could make some of those models, as Williams by Bachmann will never make them.

 

Lee Fritz

I agree, I really believe that attention to small details makes a big difference....

Especially when the two models are quite different like a GP-38 and a GP-39-2.

I am not one who counts rivots but there is a big difference between the two models. 

Also I have a U23-B on order from Atlas for the Reading & Northern.

Have looked at the Lionel SD-38's and they are way too expensive.

 

Lee Fritz

Originally Posted by phillyreading:

Have looked at the Lionel SD-38's and they are way too expensive.

 

Lee Fritz

 Don't feel too bad.  I ordered a pair of SD38s and will remove the shells and the rest will go in the parts bin. So $530 for just body shells is really expensive.  But, if you want SD38s this is probably your only chance.  Personally, I'd bet there is a 50-50 chance they will be canceled due to lack of orders anyway.  The large majority of modelers will say they look just like an SD40.  Just like a 38 anything looks exactly like a 39 anything and an SDP40F look exactly like an FP45. 

 

I'm that way with steam, there are big ones and small ones and then there are huge ones with two sets of drivers. Other than that they all look the same to me unless they have some type of deco shrouding or paint.

Originally Posted by rdunniii:
Originally Posted by phillyreading:

Have looked at the Lionel SD-38's and they are way too expensive.

 

Lee Fritz

 Don't feel too bad.  I ordered a pair of SD38s and will remove the shells and the rest will go in the parts bin. So $530 for just body shells is really expensive.  But, if you want SD38s this is probably your only chance.  Personally, I'd bet there is a 50-50 chance they will be canceled due to lack of orders anyway.  The large majority of modelers will say they look just like an SD40.  Just like a 38 anything looks exactly like a 39 anything and an SDP40F look exactly like an FP45. 

 

I'm that way with steam, there are big ones and small ones and then there are huge ones with two sets of drivers. Other than that they all look the same to me unless they have some type of deco shrouding or paint.

If I knew somebody close by to me who could repaint or stencil a couple of GP-38's for Reading & Northern I would that. The GP-35 and GP-38 don't look that different, just engine horsepower is different, I think.

 

However the GP-38 and GP-39-2 do look a lot different, one might have a short or high hood and the other might have an extended cab area.

 

With the GP-7 and GP-9 they look somewhat similar, except the GP-9 has a larger engine.

 

Some steam engines do look alike, as some where called different names by different companies, camel back or widow maker. One model of a steam engine with a similar name but from two different railroads are a bit different, the one that comes to mind is the T-1 northern; both Reading RR and Pennsy RR had a T-1, the Reading T-1 was a 4-8-4 and the Pennsy was a 4-4-4-4.

 

Lee Fritz

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