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Originally Posted by Ace:
Originally Posted by dkdkrd:
Originally Posted by ajzend:

People who do not appreciate the design beauty of GG1's or BL2's have occipital cortex dysfunction. It's an irreversible neurological malady.  

... someone who suffers from cortex dysfunction might also be subject to optical rectalitis?...

Or maybe bipolar disorder.

There's a therapy though. Something like cold turkey, the other way round. It's the hard way, but the outcome seems positive. All you need is a GG1 model train. And a straitjacket.
 

aerotrain Cajon Pass 1956

 

Dont forget about this one!

For some reason Dolly Parton comes to mind when I see this front end.   It's a 'stretch', I know...

 

This train, so I'm told, took it's GM styling cues from their city bus design...the basis for the trains' cars.  Of course, there were other car stylists who had...visions...of grandeur, too.   This one comes to mind...  ('Hey, I know what let's do...let's turn the snorkel from horizontal to vertical!!')

 


 

It was equally 'stunning' coming...

 

or going....

 

Those of you old enough may remember Ernie Kovacs, the comedian?  I remember his description of Ford's nightmare as "The front end is looking for it, the back end found it!"

 

Lucas Gudinov

I still don't understand why everyone finds it necessary to pile on about the Edsel.  It just ain't that ugly.  The only real problem with it is that it was just a Ford/Mercury dressed up in new clothes.

 

I also think the Japanese Mag-Lev train is very cool looking.  Anyway, to me all trains are beautiful.

 

Pete

This isn't a forum about autos, but much of the hostility toward the Edsel's styling

comes from Ford always designing boxes, and the Edsel deviated from that.  Ford

deviated a few other times (1937-38...really ugly cars), 1960 (not successful and

they went back to boxes), and the current 2013 Fusion which does not look like a

Ford, and they are selling! Box buyers were upset with the Edsel.  Pete is, of course right in that it was nothing different mechanically, and the final 1960 Edsel version is difficult to distinguish from a Ford, in appearance or mechanically.  I like the styling of the 1958 (only) Edsel, but mechanically...big zero.  Ford did not go

bankrupt with that experiment, and while that make is gone, so are Pontiac,

Oldsmobile, and Saturn much more recently for similar reasons (lack of mechanical

difference, and conversely, lack of reliability in significant mechanical changes,

4-6-8 and diesel engines in Olds).

 

Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:
Originally Posted by Dave Allen:
Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:

There are many who think that the Southern Railway Q1 class is the ugliest locomotive ever built. I happen to think that they have a certain charm about them, but I fear that I am in the minority. Apart from their looks, which were mainly designed for easy cleaning and ease of maintenance, they are the most powerful 0-6-0 steam locomotive ever made in Great Britain.

 

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Nicole, I've never seen this before. To me, it's butt ugly.

Hi Dave,

If you'd like to see more, here's some film of them in action.  

 

This must be some kind of geared locomotive.  I don't see any drive rods.

 

Earl

Originally Posted by EIS:
Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:
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This must be some kind of geared locomotive.  I don't see any drive rods.

 

Earl

Many English steam locomotives had inside cylinders, particularly smaller or older units. 4-4-0 "City of Truro" is an express passenger engine built 1903 with inside cylinders, preserved and still operable, claimed to be the first steam loco to exceed 100mph, in 1904 (disputing the earlier claim of NYC 999).

  

City of Truro

Maybe looks odd to American steam fans?

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Originally Posted by EIS:
Originally Posted by EIS:
Originally Posted by Ace:
Originally Posted by EIS:
Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:
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What are the boxes between the drive wheels?  I originally thought the boxes housed the gear drives.

 

Earl

 

Hi Earl,

 

I think that the boxes that you are enquiring about are the sand boxes.  The cylinders are located between the frames, and drive a cranked axle on the centre pair of drivers. The valve gear is also internal and is of a modified Stephenson type.

As well as his more well known designs for the Southern, Bulleid also designed the 'Leader' class of 0-6-6-0T locomotives. These were a rather radical design, especially for a steam engine, and sadly did not develop past the testing stage.

 

 SR_Leader_05 

Here is some film of the first one under construction.

 

 

This link will show more of his designs.  

http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/(S(bvy0twe32pyqczln2htklhka))/_ldr/ldrClass.aspx

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You guys sure do know the ugly trains and there appear to be no shortage of examples.  To paraphrase from Saving Private Ryan some of these trains took a dive from tthe top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down!  That Dutch train even took a swipe at the elegant Thalys TGV!  I'm just happy no one put the M10000 on the catwalk of train ugliness - great thread!

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