Every Engine?

Gosh, Paul, there were certainly a lot more diseasels that the Milwaukee had in the early '50's.  Some that come to mind include "Famous 15" the E-6 that the Milwaukee bought in 1941 and "Old Maude" the Alco DL109 (DL107?) A-A pair.  Starting in 1947 they bought ten E-7 A-A pairs, plus a whole fleet of FM "Erie Builts".    In 1950, they started with the F-7P's with steam boilers.  Actually the Milwaukee never got any Trainmasters.  The so-called "baby Trainmasters" were actually 1600 HP H-16-66 versions, shorter by 4 feet than their big brothers.  (Only about one inch in "0" gauge so you could kind of pass off the larger TM's for the Milwaukee and C&NW versions.)

The Milwaukee also had a smattering of Baldwins, Plymouths, GEs, Whitcombs and other odd ball engines.  Besides they also constructed two interesting diesel-electric passenger engines that were essentially baggage cars with a snub nose diesel cab in front and a single 567 EMD engine behind.  One of those ran right up into your part of the world to Plymouth and Elkhart Lake.

One thing the Milwaukee was not, was boring!  They experimented with everything!

Paul Fischer

Do you run the Hiawatha with the steam engine or diesel?

Nicks Trains, For my time period it is diesel, but the Hiawatha between Chicago and the Twin Cities started out with I believe the streamlined Atlantic and then progressed to the Hudson and then to E units. I run mine with F7's which I know are freight but their close enough.

Fisch330, You're right of course. I just listed the few that I have. I know I would be buying for quite awhile before I got them all!

Absolutely. I'm a N&W fan. Having one example of each of the N&W steamers is my personal goal. So far I have the A, E, I, J, K, M (on preorder), S, T, Y. Still more to go....love that alphabet soup!

Gilly

I'm like Paul.  I model the PRR in the very late 1940s, and I would like to have a model of every steam and diesel engine that the PRR had in service in 1949.  I think I have developed an accurate list of those engines that were operational then, not just on the roster but out of service like the S2.  By my count, there were a total of 51 different model/series of engines operating then; 21 steam, 22 diesel, and 8 electric.  I counted all variants of the K4 as one, but series like the T1 and T2, and H8 through H10, as separate.

I currently have 29 1949 PRR engine model/series; 16 steam, 11 diesel, and 2 electric.  I will model the western divisions where the PRR used big steam and no electrics, so I do not plan to buy more electrics.  There are at least 3 steamers and 6 diesels that are available in O scale that I want to get as funds and space allow.  However, I'll probably will never have all 43 steam and diesel model/series because those last few engines are just not made in O, and I don't plan to scratch build them.

The search continues.

Ron

I Buy what ever I Love to look at and run.

I did in HO, but with products limited in O for some railroads, I gave that up. Now I purchase the best sounding engines I can find.

Absolutely, except, there are certain locomotives or class I don't like or respect, and I avoid those.  I do ATSF and UP.  I'm not that keen on having all the small stuff, but the big UP locos and the turbines and the F and E EMDs - absolutely.  one of each at least.  Same with ATSF.

What is amazing is that as you get more and more of one of your RRs locos, it just makes you hungrier for the few that remain. 

Fortunately, I am modeling a freelance shortline, which does has connections and

the possibility of engines of those roads appearing, so I don't have a prototype wish list to fill, and am just constrained by the era/date modeled.  However, as not every engine rostered by the major Class 1's has been made in three rail, a great many small engines have not been made that were used by shortlines.

So do I.

And i especially can't resist a beautiful shiny passenger train. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...kee_Road_locomotives

PAUL THIS MIGHT PROVE HELPFUL USE THE ABOVE LINK FOR A COMPLETE ROSTER FO ALL THE ENGINES USED BY MILWAUKEE ROAD

STEVE

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Southwest Hiawatha- thanks for the product info, yours is always accurate and enjoyed.

L.I.Train- thanks for that link. I printed a copy of it. It will be very useful.

If you are going to do this I suggest sitting down and thinking about "the rules" you will follow exactly: what constitutes a different/new model, and what was just a variation, etc.   It helps identify what and how you will proceed: the main issue, is what constitutes a "new model" (putting elephant ears on it, converting to oil? Or only making a major upgrade is size, power, change in body shell shape?).

I am not saying my rules are correct, but I do want to collect all classes of the ATSF that were in service from 1920 on through to 1955 (well, all but the really old, really wimpy locos). I am suggesting that thinking about it, hard, going in, makes it much clearer where and how to set your sites, spend your money, and plan your shelf space.

So among the decisions I've had to make that show the rules I have in mind are:

• were ATSF Texans 5001 - 5005 (coal) a different model than 5006-5011 (oil).
• Answer no - they could all burn either but just had different tenders.
• Was Northern 3751 as rebuilt (1938) a different loco that 3751 (1928)?  Answer, definitely yes, it had more than two feet of additional driver wheelbase as rebuilt and gained 25 tons in weight and about 15% in horsepower.
• Was Northern class 2900 different from Northern class 3765 since they weighed a lot more than 3765s.  Answer, no: the 2900s were the same design as 3765 but simply used more heavier/lower strength/quality of steels due to wartime limits of high strength steels.

"And i especially can't resist a beautiful shiny passenger train."

Nicole, you have great taste.

I understand why some concentrate on a particular road name, but there are too many other wonderful choices for me to restrict it to just one.

It helps to find books and websites that have the rosters of your favorite railroads to chart and list what the railroad had and when they had it.

Some Diesel-Electric Locomotives were retired to make way for new models, so they would not appear on the same tracks together in real life.

Andrew

I am also from the Midwest and I model ATSF and BN diesels GP's and SD's. I know a lot of modelers who model Milwaukee Road beautiful engine. If I didn't like the ATSF blue and yellow I also would model Milwaukee . I read a forum a few months back about if you had to do it again. Soooooo wasn't overly happy with the layout. So I took my time and measured measured and measured and then ripped it all up. Now I'm taking the time I should have and started over. I am only in the beginning stages but I'm already happier, and will be running 6 trains at the same time. I'll get pictures out as we go.