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No big deal- but a recent "warm my heart" experience:

I have introduced grandchildren to model trains (O Gauge) for some 16 years, through six grandchildren in three families.  I bought each family Pennsylvania Flyer Lion Chief starter sets.

Thursday, two (brother and sister) grandchildren requested to "run trains" near the end of a day together with Grandma and I. That's a first- after (in their case, 8 years of having their own "Christmas train set").

Both (8 YO boy and 6 YO girl) wanted to run steam engines.  They ran for probably 45 minutes (a long time given their attention spans) using Lion Chief remotes, and ran them perfectly, smoking up the basement, honking the horns, ringing the bells, and running cab talk features on LC Plus engines. We had a great time- them running my trains over a fully-sceniced layout.   Then we played "hide the Muscleman" - see below.

This was a change.  Normally, these two are no more than somewhat interested (three of the other four could not care less about trains at all).  I was, of course, more delighted than they were.

Observations after these 16 years:

-  The starter sets are great- generally good quality (we have had one engine fail- motor)- otherwise perfect but just run for three weeks at Christmas.  None of the 3 families has had any inclination toward a permanent layout.  One family still sets the circle of track around the tree each year- the others do not. 

- the Lion Chief remotes are the key for kids.  The Grandson ran his at age 1-1/2- backwards and at full tilt- but he ran it.  It never derailed from the speed.   By age 2 he was saying "Grandpa's trains run slow" and running his at prototypical speeds as well.  He's 8 now.  I have not attempted for them to run using TMCC remotes.

- All three families turned off the smoke and sound after jst a day or so when the sets were new.  They lost the "play value" in my opinion.

-  Having the ability to dim  layout light is important- they like to make it "night", to see all the city and train lights.  It's a "play value" too.

- "Hide the Muscleman"- addresses the attention span issue.   It's a hide and seek game using a 2-1/2" tall plastic wrestler figure bought at a local discount store for $1.99.  One child hides it anywhere on the layout, BUT in full view, then the other (or Grandpa) has to try and find it.  Against the rules to put him inside a building, or off of or under the tables, but OK to make you have to look hard to find him. They will play this game for two times as long as they run the trains, and usually have to be forced to stop for time reasons.  This involves the layout,  as Grandpa has to go into an adjacent room while they hide the toy, then reverse roles.

I don't have any working accessories- might have to change that.  Maybe a coal loader.

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If my experience with my grandchildren is any indication I would go ahead and introduce the kids to TMCC. My two grandchildren are presently 4 and 6, they both were taught how to use the TMCC and DCS controllers at age 3 and recently Blunami via iPhone. The only restriction I have is that I turn the power on for everything. I confess at this time I only have a “carpet central” setup but to date neither of them has had anything leave the tracks. Have fun, you and your grandchildren will remember the moments forever!!!

In my profile pic I am with our granddaughter, Elina, when she was maybe 8 years old. She would help me set up the Holiday Train Show in our small town. The first year I only had a Holiday village scene but knew that I wanted to expand. I had bought the girls train for her and knew that I needed a special world in which to run pastel-colored trains including a PINK GG1! I wanted it to be something that even the grown-up kids would get a kick out of and since she and I played it a lot when she was younger, we made CANDYLAND! One of her jobs was to build the path with Starburst candy. The next year I let her carefully unbox all 23 candy themed box and tank cars as well as the Polar Express. Then we decided to add her Disney Princess Pez dispensers to the game. She was very proud to help me run the trains for a packed house and the real highlight was when the school kids, including her class, walked down on a class trip. I went outside to meet them and asked the teacher if I may have my engineer. SHE ran the trains for her class. When I packed up to move last year, I asked her if she wanted me to save her train and she said yes. She also saved all of the wooden trains from her early years and even though she isn't playing with them now as she heads off to college, I truly believe that they will come out again in the future.DSCN0455DSCN0712DSCN0716DSCN0714mikki and E engineers

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Some grandchildren inherit "the train gene," but some don't. Further, it may not get passed along to great grandchildren. Granddaughter Stephenie enjoyed trains as a child, and she attended a LCCA Convention. During a sleepover at Mottler Station at one Christmas Eve, she slept near the HO carpet layout at the base of her own small Christmas tree.

Her children, our great grandkids Matthew (now 11) and Olivia (now 5), have enjoyed running THOMAS series trains using Bluetooth controllers and some TMCC-equipped locos with a CAB-1. Matthew is a skilled junior engineer, and he has operated the trains at the base of the Christmas tree. Olivia directs a train around the layout for a few laps, but soon shifts her attention to the accessories -- especially the Culvert Loader and Culvert Unloader pair. As Matthew grew older, his focus shifted to Lego kits - mainly dragon and dinosaur creatures. Now he creates his own monsters from Lego parts.

Along another branch of the family tree, our great grandson Hudson showed little interest in the trains. He's engaged in sports -- baseball and even golf. Our youngest great grandkids Caroline and Harper have yet to see the trains, so it's too soon to tell if Pepaw's trains become interesting to them.

Grandkids and great grandkids are useful and effective "reasons" to support my layout-building activity to my wife who supports my involvement with trains for their sake -- and mine.  She her own hobby interests and volunteer projects.

And so it goes ...

Mike Mottler   LCCA 12394

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Mike, your topic title piqued my interest since we are expecting the arrival of our first grandchild any day.  We have two daughters who have had a minimal interest in trains.  Now after nearly 10 years of marriage, our youngest is about to be a mom.  My wife has been buying clothes, books, and toys at thrift stores for years.  Many of the toys are a variety of trains meant for preschoolers.  Many of the books and toys have a train theme.  I know our grandchild will grow out of these rapidly.  That may be good, because though I'm not quite 68, spending time on the floor and getting back up is already a problem.  I do have a hefty folding banquet table that I have used for a Christmas layout.  That may become a permanent train platform.  I'm hoping our grandchild will have some interest in the trains, but know that can't be forced.  I'm glad to read of others' experience.

Great topic! Every Friday for the past year we get our grandson and he goes back home Saturday afternoon. He turned 3 last month and loves to hang out with Pop-pop after dinner to work on the layout. Here he's 2 1/2 working hard to set the road bed straight with toothpicks and placing the nails in the holes I just drilled.

After all the hard work that he put into helping pop-pop and we were finished powering up the first mainline, he received his first train set. Ofcourse his train was the first to run on the layout!

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I don't have grandchildren or even children yet but I have really enjoyed this thread. It reminded me of time I spent following my grandpa around while he worked on stuff around the house and how he would take me to the hobby shops and help me build my layout. He and my grandma bought my first train for me for Christmas. It was the New York Central starter set and I still have it!

You guys are getting me all sorts of nostalgic now! Great thread!!

I have 5 grandsons that all received trains from me when young.  Only one is still into trains. He is ten. About 5 years ago we started our first layout. We are now working on our second one. He enjoys helping build and paint.  Working on scenery now. He can get on top of tables much easier then i can  We have been to York last fall and go to a lot of the local to Cleveland train shows. Wife and i took him to see the big boy in 2019? in Chicago area. He comes over at least once a week to run trains. I consider my self very blessed. Have the love of trains with the 10 year old. Love of soccer with 2 of them. Love of cars with one and love of cooking with other one.

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