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Guys,

 

I was viewing some pictures of the GCRR recently (I took a trip in 2010) and I haven't seen the set modeled anywhere. It was unique because instead of burning diesel fuel it burned used oil for french fries which is bought in bulk apparently. I so want to model this set and recall fondly an adventure that I and my family took.

Does anybody know if any toy train companies manufacture it? It even had a wild west show with a phony train robbery accompanied by an local Indian dance which I filmed.

 

The owner of the local souvenir shop onsite told me that the company was going to sponsor a local hobby shop in town, but that they were considering an HO show only since they were going to model several passes in the actual Grand Canyon. Does anybody know if they actually did this? I live in NYC and I still remember that....It will forever be a fond memory for me.....Any information would be helpful.

 

Thanks.

 

Mike Maurice

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Weaver offered a Consolidation several years ago. The Consolidation that Weaver offered was a Baldwin and the actual LS&I unit converted to Grand Canyon uses was an Alco.   The CB&Q Berkshire (Correction Mikado) is the locomotive that burned the Peanut Oil.
Weaver offering.

CB&Q berk  (Correction Mikado).

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Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by Mike CT:

   The CB&Q Berkshire is the locomotive that burned the Peanut Oil.

Sorry Mike, but you better count the wheels under that Grand Canyon #4960. She is a FORMER CB&Q Mike (2-8-2), and no longer looks anything like her CB&Q days.

Correction noted.

Thank you, Mike CT

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Guys,

 

The engine I'm talking about did not look as you have pictured it. First of all it was NOT a steam engine it was a silver Alco as I remember it it was a diesel engine. I remember having a discussion with the conductor and they burned used cooking oil. with an orange pin stripe on the nose. I will try and post it. I have a digital camera. It had the old time silver passenger cars. All in all the entire consist was 6 cars the engine and 5 passenger cars.

 

Mike Maurice

From "Trains" magazine, May 2010:  "After one year of inactivity, Grand Canyon 2-8-2 No. 4960 returned to the rails in 2009 with a new, environmentally friendly fuel: waste vegetable oil."  Photo by Eric Hadder.

 

The shot (uncredited) of the diesels shows the ALCo mentioned above, but there is no mention in the article to indicate that it also burns vegetable oil.

Mikado

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There is a sizable movement promoting recycled vegetable oil as a fuel for diesel automobiles. My brother in northern California is somehow involved with a small filtering and reprocessing operation. Some (very) low-level criminals have even been busted here in Tucson and elsewhere for stealing used cooking oil from McDonald's and such places and reselling it to motor-fuel reprocessers. As I understand it the stuff works OK, but they have to blend it with some petroleum-based fuel or the diesel won't start from cold. So running the Grand Canyon Alcos on vegetable oil is no big surprise. 

 

As for the steamers, a steam engine can be made to run on anything that will burn or generate heat - coal, oil, natural gas, firewood, or recycled copies of OGR. You could even build a nuclear-powered one if you had enough money (and clout with the Feds). All you would have to do to run an oil-burning steam loco on recycled vegetable oil is some relatively minor adjustments or parts changes to the burners and fuel feed system. It would, however, most likely be a lot more expensive than the heavy bunker oil normally used in steam locomotives.

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