Joe, Who makes that concrete tie track?
Originally posted by Mike deberg:
Joe, Who makes that concrete tie track?
I believe it's Atlas O
rdunniii posted:
Oh, and the only "modern" diesel Scott is getting interest in is the SD40-2, again not done by anyone except MTH so...
And Lionel and Weaver Models- which became the MTH model.
If done with road/era specific detail, an SD40-2 would be a sure hit, especially for the 2R community with the horizontal drive. As noted, although previous runs by Lionel, MTH, Weaver, etc... there are many paint schemes and era's that this locomotive can be produced for, so as long as the tooling supports some modularity/flexibility would certainly be a good product to invest in.... Lionel's recently reinvested in new tooling for the SD38/SD40 so there is obviously something to this model's flexibility if done correctly. 
IMO, It would be nice to see Scott incorporate the electronics interface to use the ESU Loksound Select L decoder (Plug and Play) in place of the QSI titan
I agree, EMD's most popular locomotive has not been done accurately in O.
A snoot nose version would be a nice option as well.
prrhorseshoecurve posted:Originally posted by Mike deberg:
Joe, Who makes that concrete tie track?I believe it's Atlas O
I don't believe Atlas O made 2R concrete tie track? I think they have 3R flex.
Mike DeBerg posted:Joe, Who makes that concrete tie track?
Sorry Mike, I missed your question! I had to look to make sure it was to me.
That grey track is G scale. They are Train-Li ties in grey that I paint again to protect from the sun. I tried some of their nickle silver rails (in the picture) as a test to compare with the Aristo stainless that I use exclusively. I do like the ties.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what track your question is about? I wish I had bought some 2 rail O scale with concrete ties. I think I had found some, years ago and forgot about it??
I believe it was old pullman that made concrete tie flex track some time ago.
Engineer-Joe posted:Sorry Mike, I missed your question! I had to look to make sure it was to me.That grey track is G scale. They are Train-Li ties in grey that I paint again to protect from the sun. I tried some of their nickle silver rails (in the picture) as a test to compare with the Aristo stainless that I use exclusively. I do like the ties.
Otherwise, I'm not sure what track your question is about? I wish I had bought some 2 rail O scale with concrete ties. I think I had found some, years ago and forgot about it??
Joe, No worries. More curious than anything. I hadn't seen that before in G scale. They look great!
I don't think Scott will do those since both Lionel & MTH have done them. The SD70MAC is a more likely candidate
There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
rdunniii posted:There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
Good Day,
No disrespect but how do you know for sure? Do you have any data to support your statement?
Respectfully,
Frank
Swafford posted:rdunniii posted:There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
Good Day,
No disrespect but how do you know for sure? Do you have any data to support your statement?
Respectfully,
Frank
Just continuous feedback from many folks at the various shows that Sunset/3rd Rail representatives attend.
I would tend to agree with you, I think Scotts market today is not ready for 3rd generation diesel power, too much has been made and continues to be made by MTH and Lionel meaning the larger part of reservations would have to be 2 railers who carried the FT diesel run. JMO
Scott asked about SD70MACs about 6-8 months ago and I said I would be in for a couple but they are BNSF and ARR only and think GP40-2s would do better. The Amfleet cars are the first ones with less than ~6 railroads he is willing to try. But the majority of the feedback he received on doing any 2nd and 3rd generation diesels was the SD40-2 would do the best. Seein' as how he has less than half of the needed reservations even to begin the design work that's not coming along as hoped. The FP45 is in the same situation. The 3-rail market is satisfied, and saturated, with the Lionel and MTH versions of all the above and the 2-rail market is just not large enough to sustain any alone.
rdunniii posted:Scott asked about SD70MACs about 6-8 months ago and I said I would be in for a couple but they are BNSF and ARR only and think GP40-2s would do better. The Amfleet cars are the first ones with less than ~6 railroads he is willing to try. But the majority of the feedback he received on doing any 2nd and 3rd generation diesels was the SD40-2 would do the best. Seein' as how he has less than half of the needed reservations even to begin the design work that's not coming along as hoped. The FP45 is in the same situation. The 3-rail market is satisfied, and saturated, with the Lionel and MTH versions of all the above and the 2-rail market is just not large enough to sustain any alone.
Good Day,
Thanks for the overview. I think the price point on the SD40-2 has slowed the ordering down. Scott offers fantastic products but the price is a big factor. The price on all diesel locomotives from Lionel, MTH, Atlas and 3rd Rail are going to continue to go up as cost of the products continue to go up. I do hope the SD40-2 does get built! I wish Scoot the best!
Regards,
Swafford
RDUNN, Thanks for the update on the SD40-2s. Still hoping that they make it into production.
Swafford, I would be in for Conrail SD70MACs
Yes,Conrail would be nice!
Norm
rdunniii posted:There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
How is support measured? How does 3rd Rail know that there is less support for the SD70 than there is for the SD40-2 .... when there is no SD70 reservation page?
Is there some more-or-less official venue where 3rd Rail measures support?
I only ask because I want to contribute.
Matt
Matt01 posted:rdunniii posted:There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
How is support measured? How does 3rd Rail know that there is less support for the SD70 than there is for the SD40-2 .... when there is no SD70 reservation page?
Is there some more-or-less official venue where 3rd Rail measures support?
I only ask because I want to contribute.
Matt
Very simply. Email Scott and say if you make X I will reserve Y number of them. If potential reservations for X reach about 2 to 3 dozen he will ask around if anybody else thinks it will do well reservation wise and if they agree he will offer it. Right now SD70XXX potential reservations are still in the single digits (as of a month ago or so) so it goes nowhere.
Swafford posted:rdunniii posted:Scott asked about SD70MACs about 6-8 months ago and I said I would be in for a couple but they are BNSF and ARR only and think GP40-2s would do better. The Amfleet cars are the first ones with less than ~6 railroads he is willing to try. But the majority of the feedback he received on doing any 2nd and 3rd generation diesels was the SD40-2 would do the best. Seein' as how he has less than half of the needed reservations even to begin the design work that's not coming along as hoped. The FP45 is in the same situation. The 3-rail market is satisfied, and saturated, with the Lionel and MTH versions of all the above and the 2-rail market is just not large enough to sustain any alone.
Good Day,
Thanks for the overview. I think the price point on the SD40-2 has slowed the ordering down. Scott offers fantastic products but the price is a big factor. The price on all diesel locomotives from Lionel, MTH, Atlas and 3rd Rail are going to continue to go up as cost of the products continue to go up. I do hope the SD40-2 does get built! I wish Scoot the best!
Regards,
Swafford
I tend to agree on price point especially when you add shipping $35+ for 2 units, a couple of years ago I would have been more into a pair of these but today my interests are in newer motive power. JMO
rdunniii posted:Matt01 posted:rdunniii posted:There is even less support for SD70XXX than there is for SD40-2s.
How is support measured? How does 3rd Rail know that there is less support for the SD70 than there is for the SD40-2 .... when there is no SD70 reservation page?
Is there some more-or-less official venue where 3rd Rail measures support?
I only ask because I want to contribute.
Matt
Very simply. Email Scott and say if you make X I will reserve Y number of them. If potential reservations for X reach about 2 to 3 dozen he will ask around if anybody else thinks it will do well reservation wise and if they agree he will offer it. Right now SD70XXX potential reservations are still in the single digits (as of a month ago or so) so it goes nowhere.
Thank you, rdunniii
Matt
