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Originally Posted by Smoke Stack Lightnin:

Not as much as I spent for the Acme Moat complete with Piranha kit, wireless burglar system, collection of Glocks, and of course my leprosy medicine, and visits to the shrink for a paranoia disorder!  

 

Rich

I thought the Acme Moat came with alligators.  Maybe that was an option .  

Originally Posted by Bob Severin:

Originally, I was going to title this thread as "what's the value of your collection?".  But, value is a relative term, and would prove to be a topic of endless opinion.  That considered, how much you spent for your trains would be the question to ask.  My wife recently asked me, and when I couldn't come up with an instant answer, she started to throw out numbers.  

 

Reflecting on my original post, I suggest that no one actually posts any dollar amounts here.  It was another ill-conceived idea on my part.  Too many bad guys out there looking for a score.  

 

 

For me, and I am sure for many others, this is not a cheap hobby.

 

You may choose not to respond to this post, and, that's certainly fine with me.  But, it may give you a chance to consider what you have invested in your hardware.  You may be surprised.  I wasn't, but, I find it's cheaper than cars or boats or planes.  I've tried a couple of those, and they can get out of control really fast.  

 

Food for thought, that's all.  Good day to all.  Bob S.

 

Absolutely none of your or anyones business. 

Gee Bob, I never really stopped to think about it. As has been pointed out, what one spends and what is the actual value, are two different things.

 

I'm not one to worry about theft, since no one in their right mind would bother trying to cart them off, as they are bulky and highly illiquid.

 

For the longest time, I operated under the policy of 4 cars for $100 or less. Up until a few years ago that still worked. Then it slipped to 3 cars. Now it's more like 2 cars.

 

For simplicity sake, let's just say an average price $40 per car, and there are over 500 cars. I had no idea.

 

 

Originally Posted by Big_Boy_4005:

Gee Bob, I never really stopped to think about it. As has been pointed out, what one spends and what is the actual value, are two different things.

 

I'm not one to worry about theft, since no one in their right mind would bother trying to cart them off, as they are bulky and highly illiquid.

 

For the longest time, I operated under the policy of 4 cars for $100 or less. Up until a few years ago that still worked. Then it slipped to 3 cars. Now it's more like 2 cars.

 

For simplicity sake, let's just say an average price $40 per car, and there are over 500 cars. I had no idea.

 

 

Elliot:  My wife and I used to gauge prices on how many bags of groceries we could bring home for $100.  It worked for awhile, with less and less bags, then they changed to smaller bags, and our whole system of economics went awry.  Bob S.

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I do this hobby on a serious budget, and even then, it has really added up over 20 years.  Most of my purchases are used things, and this works out just fine for me, but there are some things you are forced to buy new from time to time.  Track and switches can be found used at times, but i've bought a lot of new.  My benchwork is 2x4 and OSB, as opposed to the more common 1x4 and ply...it works, and it cost a lot less.  The biggest cost killer, however is simply taking the time to learn each skill that i've needed in the hobby.  All told, I tend to budget about 1/4 of my income to "hobbies" in which my interest vary from time to time.  Trains are big now, at other times it is computer gaming, or getting my 87 mustang to the track.  I think it doesn't really matter what you spend as long as you can afford it and it makes you happy...But there's also nothing wrong with trying to keep a tight budget on things.  I don't buy anything I don't plan on running till the wheels fall off, then figuring out how to put the wheels back on so I can run it some more.  

 

"So you think that money is the root of all evil? . . . Have you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which can’t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?"  --  A.R.  

I can understand why people would be hesitant to answer this question. My first thought was "I would never say what I have spent", but after thinking about it I don't see why not. My trains are not all that valuable, especially to a thief wanting to quickly unload them. I got started with O gauge trains in October of 2012 when my daughter bought a Polar Express set for me. Since then I have spent a little over $20000. I use my real name, I live in southeast Baltimore and I am in the phone book.

Originally Posted by Pat Kn:

As the Taj Mahal song says:

"Ain't nobody's business but my own."

It also says:

"Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker"

Good song. 

We're all just one too many mornings, and a thousand miles behind.  Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall.  (quoting songs since we've taken a different direction)

A - the originator of this thread has not posted HIS expenditures. Hmm.

 

B - I see the word "investment" used above. Sure. Like "investing" in that new car.

     An investment is something that has a reasonable chance of increasing in value.

     ("If I had kept my 1964 Cobra Charger Super Sport XFT, it would be worth 

      $100,000!" If.) These things are only accidentally an investment.

 

C - Doesn't matter how much I have spent - it passed "too much" a while back. Must    divest.

 

 

    

     

I have a tally sheet, but I'm not telling (and I really wouldn't know without some work). On the other hand I gave up cable tv several years ago.  If cable TV is $100 a month, its $1,200 a year and $12,000 in ten years.  And what do you get for it? Not much. I would be very surprised if I get to that figure with my trains, but I can always sell my trains.  Can you sell your cable TV memories?

Don't care, it's a hobby.  I do however use Yard Office to keep track of purchases in the unlikely event I have to prove something to the insurance company.  How much have you spent going out to eat?  Drinking or going to the casino? If you enjoy it, can afford it then cost is not a main issue.  I spend disposable income.  

 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

More than I want to put in print!

 

Originally Posted by Wood:

Here we go again.... I have kept track of my total expenses...  (Pun intended.)  The number is significant but for me within my budget.  Time is also a factor.  I have been actively working on my layout for the last 9 years.

 

I would like to offer a different spin on this conversation. What is more interesting is the amount spent on different categories of the hobby.  and this is my breakdown:

 

Accessories & buildings 15%

Motive power 33%

Rolling Stock 15%

Table, controls, track, tools and supplies 37%

 

My surprise in these number is the accumulation of supplies which nickel and dime me.  It adds over time.   

I also keep track of my inventory (trains/cars/track/etc) in an excel file that can easily be viewed by type/catagory/brand/dates etc.  For me, there is nothing more effective to talk me out of buying something than looking at the totals. 

 

When I got back into this hobby almost 20 yrs ago first in HO & N then migrated to O, I thought it would be less expensive than golf.  Boy, was I naive.

I'm on the very low end, small layout & biggest curves are O-36.  2 Lionel Starter set locos & 1 used MTH Proto 2 Railking steam 2-8-0 & K-Line Trolley , assorted brands rolling stock & Fastrack but it's good enough for me. I'm happy if I can just get healthy enough to get back working on it after 3 knee surgeries for torn meniscus each time & rotator cuff surgery in last 5 years.

Bob,

Without the exact totals. Those who want to make educated guess can do so. My children moved the bulk of my collection into one of the newer storage facilities. Everything is comfortable in it's own temperature/humidity controlled room. I had no idea that I own 37 boxed sets of prewar Lionel tinplate std & o-gauge. One more reason to tell everyone be aware of everything, just don't guesstimate.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

Originally Posted by D500:

A - the originator of this thread has not posted HIS expenditures. Hmm.

 

B - I see the word "investment" used above. Sure. Like "investing" in that new car.

     An investment is something that has a reasonable chance of increasing in value.

     ("If I had kept my 1964 Cobra Charger Super Sport XFT, it would be worth 

      $100,000!" If.) These things are only accidentally an investment.

 

C - Doesn't matter how much I have spent - it passed "too much" a while back. Must    divest.

 

 

    

     

I actually did post my expenditures with the original post.  Then, after of very eloquent and intelligent responses, I edited my expenditures out, and edited the post with a suggestion not to list your expenses.  It was not a good idea, given the amount of desperadoes roaming the internet.  

Originally Posted by Bill Robb:

I have a tally sheet, but I'm not telling (and I really wouldn't know without some work). On the other hand I gave up cable tv several years ago.  If cable TV is $100 a month, its $1,200 a year and $12,000 in ten years.  And what do you get for it? Not much. I would be very surprised if I get to that figure with my trains, but I can always sell my trains.  Can you sell your cable TV memories?

I actually did this also. I couldn't believe that in a year (1200.00) I was paying more for cable than what my expensive flat screen cost, especially when netflix is only 8.99 a month. So now I use the free internet to watch TV.
  But I never thought of that as an excuse to the wife!!! what a co-incidence That last brass steam engine was exactly 1200.00 and that was with the tax,,, no less. Yes dear. 

Originally Posted by Gary P:
I'm on the very low end, small layout & biggest curves are O-36.  2 Lionel Starter set locos & 1 used MTH Proto 2 Railking steam 2-8-0 & K-Line Trolley , assorted brands rolling stock & Fastrack but it's good enough for me. I'm happy if I can just get healthy enough to get back working on it after 3 knee surgeries for torn meniscus each time & rotator cuff surgery in last 5 years.

It's not how much you spend that counts, it's how much you enjoy what you have that matters. I hope you get healthy soon.

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