How small is the Kline BigBoy?

It is a small engine. It was supposed to be an 027 engine but almost looks like an American Flyer engine-not quite but unless you have 027 stuff it will look way undersized.

It would look great with American Flyer trains

It definitely looks to be more S scale than O scale.

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Originally posted by Bill Terry:
It would look great with American Flyer trains

Lionel made a Flyer Version of the K-Line Big Boy a few years ago. It is oversized (although not by much) for American Flyer. The size difference will become evident when the Flyer Challenger hits the streets.

Rusty

I agree---it does not look like an O-Scale loco at all but would look good on a S-Scale layout.

--Greg

I seem to remember when it came out..it was called the littleboy. I had one for week until I saw it.

great for S scale

rat

It looks great in an O-27 environment, esp. w/ a string of 6464 sized boxcars by K-Line or Lionel. I don't remember if I watched it run on O-27 or O-31 track. Will it clear O-27 track & switches?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-Line...&hash=item2eb8e77d1a

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Originally posted by Mark V. Spadaro:
It looks great in an O-27 environment, esp. w/ a string of 6464 sized boxcars by K-Line or Lionel. I don't remember if I watched it run on O-27 or O-31 track. Will it clear O-27 track & switches?

The Allegheny barely will and looks terrible. I would assume the Big Boy will as well since they are (?) built on the same frame/chassis I think. Would have to double check...

I am OK with mine, it looks OK with smaller cars.

That said it will be listed in the For Sale forum soon, I been buying buying for scale Legacy and Vision like items of late and it doesn't fit in any longer

Hi All,

Thanks for all the replies and the picture link. I run quite a bit of 027 stuff still so its good to know it looks ok in that context. The ad picture was also usefull but it still doeasn't help me with overall size.

For instance how much smaller is it than say a Railking Bigboy as I have one of those so can easily do the maths for a comparison?

Detail wise it looks pretty good.

Thanks MIKE

Here is a better size comparison.

K-line big boy with Marx cars :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NhGyc1vz8

S gauge K-line by Lionel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...pKVw&feature=related

They both look wrong!

Also be aware someone at K-Line thought it would be a good idea to eliminate the eccentric rods on this already under-sized under-detailed loco. The only real saving grace is the TMCC and RailSounds.

The Bigboy is 1/64. It was in the works to make an S gauge chassis for it and sell it as S. But things happened.

I believe the Allegheny was 1/58.

How small is the K-Line Big Boy? Answer: Way too small!

Save up money and get a Lionmaster bigboy instead.

I would agree. The Lionmaster Big Boy is the best of the "scaled down" O Gauge Big Boys. At a quick glance, it looks like a full-scale proportioned locomotive and is the best detailed to boot.

Rusty

Here is mine operating in a traditional atmosphere. If you forget that it is supposed to be a lot more massive than the cars, it is an impressive engine to run.

SmallBoy

Thanks for all the extra imput everyone. - Carguy that is a great video.

But with the greatest repect no-one has told me how how long, wide or high the model is nor how it compares to the Railking version which I have.

I already know its not scale etc,etc but your comments re the above would be most welcome.

CHEERS MIKE

Here is a pic to Hopefully give some good perspective on the size of various locomotives




In the Right column from Top down are:

Lionel Legacy Scale size Big Boy

Lionel LionMaster Big Boy

MTH Railking Big Boy (30-1129)

K Line Big Boy(Little Boy)

Lionel Lionmaster Challenger

Lionel Scale size AC-9



In the Left column, from the Topdown are:

Lionel Scale size H-7

Lionel Scale size Y-3

Lionel Lionmaster Challenger

Lionel Lionmaster Challenger

Lionel Lionmaster Challenger

Lionel Lionmaster Cab-Forward


I also have to agree, that in semi scale, the detail and proportions of the Lionel Lionmaster series beats the Railking, hands down, no comparison.


Doug

I have no way of measuring a K Line Big Boy but I can tell you that the Lionel Lionmaster locos are much bigger. Lionmaster locos generally are of scale width and height but are selectively shortened to enable smaller curves. A Lionel Lionmaster BigBoy will not do 027 curves, and may not be able to do 031. I have a Lionmaster Challenger and would not attempt to take it through an 031 switch into my yard. A Big Boy would be even longer.

The K Line engine is shorter, lower and narrower. Sitting next to a Lionmaster loco it will look like an S gauge engine even though its not.

Hope that helps

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Originally posted by cbojanower:
I am OK with mine, it looks OK with smaller cars.

That said it will be listed in the For Sale forum soon, I been buying buying for scale Legacy and Vision like items of late and it doesn't fit in any longer

I'm ok with mine too. I usually have one engine running at a time anyway, so size in this case doesn't matter. When I bought this engine I also bought a string of the K-Line wooden yellow reefers which seem to go well size wise with this engine. For the price and level of detail you couldn't beat it for value.

Dick,

ALL Lionmaster locomotives are supposed to be 031 capable, no reason not to attempt any of them through an 031 switch, it should not be a problem. I have never tried it, but I have read of guys running Lionmaster Challengers and Big Boys on 027 curves, AND SWITCHES, I believe that it was with K-Line switches, which are supposed to have more clearence on the motor housings than Lionel 027 switches.

Doug

Wow Doug, great picture! It looks as if you could fit the entire K-Line model into the boiler of the Lionel legacy Big Boy

Mike,


Here are approximate dimensions for both the Kline and Lionmaster Bigboys.

Kline Bigboys. 25 1/2 L. X. 3 1/2 H. X. 2 3/8 W.

Lionmaster Bigboy 30 1/4 L. X. 4.0. H. X. 2 3/4 W


George

The K-Line Big Boy is a good reference point. I showed it to my wife and now she thinks my Y6B is humongous!

I have had my K-Line Big Boy for a couple of years and it is a great runner. I was able to run a consist of plug door box cars of about 42 and it looked great. Smaller box cars are the key. I have recently bought a used Lionmaster which is really nice. I do think the K-Line is a better runner.

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Originally posted by harleyhouse:
Here is a better size comparison.

K-line big boy with Marx cars :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8NhGyc1vz8

S gauge K-line by Lionel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...pKVw&feature=related

They both look wrong!

The O version in the above video is mine. Many of us dabble in the smaller size cars like Marx, Flyer 3/16 or the early K-Line made from Marx & Kusan molds. When the K-Line Big Boy came along, it gave us a great large articulated that looked decent with our smaller rolling stock. It is bigger & better than anything we had available. Still luvin mine.

Steve

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Originally posted by Captaincog:
I have had my K-Line Big Boy for a couple of years and it is a great runner. I was able to run a consist of plug door box cars of about 42 and it looked great. Smaller box cars are the key. I have recently bought a used Lionmaster which is really nice. I do think the K-Line is a better runner.

Jeff
Did you get the video done of yours from Perris?? I have not gotten around to the video I took yet.

Steve

Thank you everyone for all that further information and the picture comparison. Question answered!!

CHEERS MIKE

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Originally posted by Steve "Papa" Eastman:

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Originally posted by Captaincog:
I have had my K-Line Big Boy for a couple of years and it is a great runner. I was able to run a consist of plug door box cars of about 42 and it looked great. Smaller box cars are the key. I have recently bought a used Lionmaster which is really nice. I do think the K-Line is a better runner.

Jeff
Did you get the video done of yours from Perris?? I have not gotten around to the video I took yet.

Steve

I got the video downloaded into the desktop last night and I have a couple of good sequences that I need to loop together. Just gotta create some time to do so!

I got the video downloaded into the desktop last night and I have a couple of good sequences that I need to loop together. Just gotta create some time to do so![/QUOTE]

Good to know some are as behinder as I am. See you Sunday?

Steve

I don't know if this helps or not but when K-line first came out with their Big Boy a number of people thought that they where planing to get into S-Scale. This was only speculation on our part, based on no inside information at all.
In fact, I think we had a thread on the subject on these pages at the time.

I only bring this up so as to stress just how compressed the thing is. It is too small even for a Rail King, or traditional trains.

Hi All,

Just one final thought on the engine. Why does it appear to be so expensive second hand - am I missing something here?

CHEERS MIKE

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Originally posted by mike w:
Hi All,

Just one final thought on the engine. Why does it appear to be so expensive second hand - am I missing something here?

CHEERS MIKE

Because folks don't know any better.

Rusty

Most here think the K-Line Big Boy is too small. I guess after working with N gauge for so long everything looks big to me. Every engine I bought from them worked and looked great. I guess my feelings on k-Line was they made great stuff for the money and I miss not having them around anymore.

Anyone know the comparitive dimensions of the K-Line Allegheny versus the RK Imperial version?
I think the K-Line version is 1:58 and should be close to the same.

Rod

I finally finished a video of my K-Line Big Boy pulling a long consist of plug door boxcars:

Big Boy in Perris