Ives & A. Flyer Standard gauge drive wheels

Hi Harry,

Are the SMWE wheels the correct ones for large gear super motor locomotives?

Yes, this set is correct for large gear early #8, 402 etc.  Harry

Hi,

   You mention Ives wide and narrow frames.  What is the difference?  I am shopping for wheels for a 3236.

Thank you,

Ron

Ron,

       Ives 1 gauge line had motors that measured 1 1/8" wide ( side plate to side plate ).  When Ives went to wide gauge ( standard gauge )  ,which was rider then #1 gauge track ), Their wheels needed to be spread wider. Early units used longer axles along w/ bushings as spacers to get the track width.  Later Ives produced a wheel w/ a wider hub, and so you did not need the spacers any longer. As time progressed, Ives used a wider motor frame, measuring 1 13/32" wide.  This wheel was available w/ steam rod holes.  Ives used this wheel also for some electrics, just did not use connecting rods. This set is our # IW-1002.  You can use this set for early steam locos,  but would need the axle spacers to fit the narrow motors.  IW-1001 is used on the narrow motors only & this set has no rod holes .  I hope this helps.  Harry

Contact Lee English at Bowser.  Maybe he can help you out.

I found the 'correct' wheels at Hennings.  I received them today and had questions.  Mr. Hennings may have answered them and I will find out this weekend when I attempt installation.  I'll let you know.

A related topic...  Hennings website...  I tried searching for Ives standard gauge wheels and I was blessed with 19 pages of results.  I found the Ives wheels on page 14.  99% of the return on the 19 pages was unrelated drivel.

Maybe I should have tried 'wide' gauge instead of 'standard'.

@Ronf43 posted:

I found the 'correct' wheels at Hennings.  I received them today and had questions.  Mr. Hennings may have answered them and I will find out this weekend when I attempt installation.  I'll let you know.

A related topic...  Hennings website...  I tried searching for Ives standard gauge wheels and I was blessed with 19 pages of results.  I found the Ives wheels on page 14.  99% of the return on the 19 pages was unrelated drivel.

Maybe I should have tried 'wide' gauge instead of 'standard'.

If you go to our on-line store, click the down arrow at M.E.W. from the left hand index. That will open the sub categories in which you can click Ives Wide Gauge. That should give you what you are looking for in lieu of apparently 19 pages of drivel.

Hope that helps,

Bill

http://henningstrains.com/

Thank you.

i apologize for the use of drivel.  but, in all fairness i did refer to it as 'unrelated'.

Hi,

   Tried installing the wheels and have a problem.  My original axles appear to be a fraction to large in diameter and I am afraid of splitting the wheel if I try more force.

   Drill the holes?  Buy new axles?  More force?  Put the axles in the freezer for a while to shrink them?

   Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Ron,

        Ives wheels are reamed to .205"  using according to MEW notes, a .208 Ives axle.  Harry

I received a set of Ives steam wheels from Hennings Thursday and installed them Friday.  I did not have a reamer but had an appropriate number drill bit.  Worked just fine.  Carl

A friend and I went overboard and mounted them on a lathe to drill them.  Perfect, the job is done.

Thank you for all the information and advice.

All's well that ends well.

Ron