I have a set of these in the NYC name, at 18" long are they scale length ? or should they be 21" long?
Clem
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AFAIK all of the K-Line Heavyweights are 18" or shorter. The only 21" cars are streamliners.
Pete
clem k posted:I have a set of these in the NYC name, at 18" long are they scale length ?
No.
or should they be 21" long?
Yes. The same as the Golden Gate Depot heavyweight passenger equipment.
Clem
thank you
Not all the heavyweight cars were 80 footers. There were some prototype shorter cars; I have drawings for some of the Frisco cars that were 72 feet long. The K-Line cars are pretty generic, I think they are 18 inches so they operate on shorter radius curves, not as an attempt to model the shorter cars.
I know that at least the baggage cars are the correct length at 18”
Check the Canada Southern website’s drawings.
They are pretty close to the standard New York Central P70 plan for what you could think of as a basic production passenger car form that could be outfitted in several ways but with common running gear, frame, body, and systems. These were standardized at 70 feet and were, with refurbishment, used to the age of streamline replacement.
Bogie
K-Line always advertised their 18-inch heavies as scale:
| Passenger Car Features |
| • 18 inches long |
| • O Scale (1:48) |
| • Overhead StreamLighting® Illumination |
| • Fully Furnished Interiors |
| • Six-wheel Die Cast Trucks |
| • Needle-Point Axles |
| • Fast Angle Wheels |
| • Vestibules w/ Opening Doors |
| • Operating Die Cast Couplers |
| • Underside Details |
| • Authentic Paint Schemes |
| • Metal Chassis |
| • Metal Steps |
| • Metal Grab Rails |
| • Diaphragms Included |
| • 42 inch Diameter Curve Required |
I have identified these K-Line Heavyweights as being in a TCA museum series honoring toy train manufacturers. Were there other such cars I’ve not identified?
K85-1896 Louis Marx RPO
K83-1899 Gordon Varney Baggage
K-1867 Harry C Ives Coach
K-1892 William O Coleman Coach
K85-1884 A C Gilbert Diner
K85-1870 William Hafner Pullman
K85-1877 J Lionel Cowan Observation
No order in my list unless it represents sequence in a train.
An additional thought on the K line heavyweights.
Did they include diaphragms on the circus set.
@David98 posted:K-Line always advertised their 18-inch heavies as scale:
Passenger Car Features • 18 inches long • O Scale (1:48) • Overhead StreamLighting® Illumination • Fully Furnished Interiors • Six-wheel Die Cast Trucks • Needle-Point Axles • Fast Angle Wheels • Vestibules w/ Opening Doors • Operating Die Cast Couplers • Underside Details • Authentic Paint Schemes • Metal Chassis • Metal Steps • Metal Grab Rails • Diaphragms Included • 42 inch Diameter Curve Required
Did k lone not also make the next to last batch with swing out steps for tight turns ?
The first cars out of the molds were not painted and were the reddish-brown of the plastic. Second batch cars were painted 'Pullman Green' and not lettered. I think the first cars offered with lettering were three coachs, an RPO, a baggage car and an observation car with Santa Fe markings. Not sold as a set. A sleeping car was added with a window arrangement similar to an 8-1-2. These morphed into the cars in last run which had overhead lighting, interiors and a few passengers and conductors. All heavyweight cars were 17 1/2 inches over the sills. Then came the 15" cars. John
