This is MPC/LTI.....
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I remember that...thought about making one.
Forgive me I lost all of my pictures of my kit bashing of my CSS. The first picture is what it looked like when I got it.
The rest of the pictures is all but complete. One is never really complete with this type of stuff, Always adding.
I've added the link to the bashing at the bottom.
Not postwar, but... still need to finish it...
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Dennis...great job on the waffle top....
Postwar decal front EP-5 with custom frame for GG1 running gear,the yellow EP-5 is a Len Cap job
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I had a Marx 1998 switcher missing the Marx shell. I found a Lionel SW2 shell and cut out about 1 inch of it to shorten it to fit the 1998. I painted it black, white and red in the colors of ALCOAs Bauxite and Northern short line railroad from the Bauxite, ARK alumina and chemical plant in Bauxite, ARK to the a major railroads main lines. The Marx 1998 is a great running engine and always beats other engines in racing through the oval and figure 8.
This post is from topic on how I built my layout on OGR forum linked below. This link has details of many kit-bashed and home made cars, buildings, operating accessories including a $10 operating turntable and a round house.
https://ogrforum.com/...ra-027-layout?page=4
Charlie
joe krasko posted:Dennis...great job on the waffle top....
and the locomotive!
Well, l was going to say, the title is "postwar", not "postwar Lionel". I use a lot of Marx #999 chasses for bashes that have included steam dummie and power for a steam coach. Those photos have been posted previously. Several others including "dinkies" for GW tank switchers to switch the sugar beet plant are from MTH and Lionel tank engines. I thought I had a "pickle" engine for my Menard's (bashed into a pickle) plant, but didn't find it quickly (found the pickle tank car build and other whimsical cars for the plant). Have an unfinished cabbed, kitbashed logging engine, not sure what will power it.
Super Idea on the GG-1 New Haven!!! Love it!!!
I do not know if this qualifies as kit-bashing a locomotive but it was fun and now much more beautiful and better operating on ac.
A cheap Lionel General 4-4-0, 8005 dc powered set with coal tender and Lionel 9541 Santa Fe Railway Agency Express Passenger car was purchased at a train show. I added a full wave rectifier and changed the Lionel 8005 to ac operation although in one direction. A selector switch was added for manual reversal. The engine was dressed up with gold stripping, a lighted head light and painting all red engine black for the boiler and stack.
A fuzzy picture of Lionel 8005 before painting and dressing up! 
The Lionel 8005 was painted, along with the red and silver front wheels and painted domes. The body and stack were painted Black. Gold stripping was added to dress up. Much more beautiful ! 
The post above came from my OGR forum topic on how I built my layout below:
https://ogrforum.com/...ra-027-layout?page=5
Charlie
This is a bash that I started back in the eighties and never got around to finishing just too many projects that I was more interested in. I usually like to have several projects going on at any given time should I need to think through the next step or need a rare part. Several Rivarossi bashing projects just sorta jumped ahead of other projects. This little 2-8-0 Connie is made from a Lionel 1615 0-4-0 and a 671 PRR Turbine. One feature I would like to point out is the front coupler is mounted on the pilot truck and stays centered in curves. Though it is a standard operating coupler I could easily convert it to a coil coupler. The idea for this loco came from a photo in a book of a three foot gauge Consolidation used in a logging operation. j
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Hey John, I love that 2-8-0! I've had the same idea about maybe doing the same thing but with a 675 or 2025 boiler so represent a PRR C1 0-8-0. I don't see a motor in your loco yet, Have you figured out how your going to make that work?
I like that! might have to try one myself.
I had her in a test run mode for a while. Used a Mabuchi can motor mounted horizontally in the boiler with a 1/4" thick X 1" diameter lead flywheel that I made, and 10 tooth bevel pinion gear on the end of the motor shaft driving a 20 tooth bevel crown gear (from slot car days) that was mounted on the motor shaft out of a 200 series O-27 Alco motor, which I striped the wire and armature laminations off. The motor worm shaft on the axle gear gave an 8:1 drive and the 10 tooth driving the 20 tooth bevel gear set gave a 2:1 that doubled the 8:1 to make a final drive ratio of 16 :1. I had a section of aluminum channel 1" on a side that I cut a 1" piece off the end and drilled a hole through the sides of the channel and pressed in bronze bearings out of a Flyer motor for the Alco motor shaft to turn in. It positioned the alco motor shaft vertical with the worm pressing against the axle gear and the 20 tooth bevel gear adjusted up and down on the shaft to mate with the gear on the motor shaft. I used the 671 side rods and the thing ran OK but the bevel gears whine a bit more than I would like. I intended to make a more appropriate set of side rods then got interested in a project with a Rivarossi Casey Jones ten wheeler kit and robbed the motor and gear train out of the connie for the Casey Jones and she has sat on the shelf since then. I was thinking, for a while, I would redo the gears on the connie to a 10 tooth pinion and a 30 tooth crown that would give a 24:1 final drive but never got a round2it.
Making the photos and writing this have me thinking that a Flyer motor shaft / worm and it's axle gear give 18:1 and might make a better starting point. Who knows maybe I'll get a round2it. j
Wow @JohnActon I would love to see some pics of this!
Kitbashed Cab Forward Locomotive
Years ago I purchased a Lionel 2025 2-6-4 steam locomotive that came with a homemade enclosed cab and white wall painted wheels. I left both intact. The Lionel 2025 and 2035 are my favorite engines to run on my layout.
My closed cab Lionel 2025 with white walls
Since I already, more or less, had a enclosed cabin steam locomotive, the Lionel 2025 mentioned above, all I would have to do to make a Cab Forward Locomotive is find oil tender (an oil tender must be used as there is no way to get coal from a coal tender to the fire box with the cab in the front of the train). Next was to make a hookup connector from the front of my 2025 steamer to the front of the oil tender at the tender slot coupling. I know a Lionel 2025 2-6-4 is not a 4-8-8-2 which would have no chance of running on my O27 track !
Kitbashed Cab Forward Locomotive
This is an easy to make, inexpensive kit bashed Cab Forward Locomotive.
Charlie
Ted S posted:Wow @JohnActon I would love to see some pics of this!
Ted , the 2-8-0 pics are just a couple of posts up the page. The motor and gear train are in a Rivarossi Casey Jones and it is several hours of work to get it apart make pix and put it back together again. Not to mention the loco is mostly plastic and the more you handle it the more you break. I'll try and draw a diagram or perhaps take a motor and gears and lay them out in the way they fit together inside the loco. j
Ted S posted:Wow @JohnActon I would love to see some pics of this!
Ted here is a sketch of how it fits together. It will fit in many small locos. It also gives you two points which you can adjust the final drive ratio. At the bevel gear set or the worm wheel which requires slotted screw holes in the section of channel to adjust the vertical worm shaft fore/aft against the worm wheel. This is much more work than changing the bevel gear set. One could use standard pinion and crown gears but they make more noise than the bevel gears which are a matched set. You'll need a good small gear puller/press and a good drillpress that will drill perfectly vertical holes. Surprising how many won't do this. something I would do differently is to use washers and 4 Lionel ball thrust bearings instead of the bronze bearings with a one ball bearing at the bottom to hold the vertical worm steady on the vertical plain . I tried a stack of washers above and below the bevel crown gear but they created to much drag. I wish I had not hopped onto this kitbash thread, so time consuming, I don't know how Gunrunnerjohn does it. J
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Ted S posted:I think the fellow's name might have been Bob Gale(?). I've seen a Reading T1 and a Big Boy that were both built by him, and powered by extended 2056-type parallel plate motors. Interesting, and unfortunately kind of a lost art when the major brands started tooling up new scale designs.
Yes, he lived in Horsham, Pa. In the very late '70s I stopped at his house. His wife greeted me at the door and if I recall, said he was ill at the time. I tried contacting him some time afterward, but cannot recall what how exchange went. I do know that train funds were scarce, in those days, so perhaps I just couldn't afford one of his pieces.
joe krasko posted:Postwar decal front EP-5 with custom frame for GG1 running gear,the yellow EP-5 is a Len Cap job
I like that. The wheels are beginning to turn. The ones in my head, that is.....LOL
@Mark Diff posted:well, not exactly kit-bashed, but modified. I repainted a Lionel 2018 for my first 3 grand kids. The first initials E, R & C are on the tender. The tender has been modified to accept a modern air whistle and a real coal load added. some crew figures added with a "picture" of a locomotive backhead included. The locomotive number "709" representing the years of there births (2007 and 2009)...
Hi Mark,
I love the paint job! I plan to do the same to a Lionel 2037 for my younger cousin, which is the same as the 2018 but also includes Magnetraction, I believe. I was wondering how you masked the front section and the boiler area (The grey)? Also, where did you find the numbered decals?
Thanks,
David Silvestri
Another vote for the ten-wheeler, that’s a very nicely balanced composition. Would look good as a 2-8-0, too
@David Silvestri posted:Hi Mark,
I love the paint job! I plan to do the same to a Lionel 2037 for my younger cousin, which is the same as the 2018 but also includes Magnetraction, I believe. I was wondering how you masked the front section and the boiler area (The grey)? Also, where did you find the numbered decals?
Thanks,
David Silvestri
Thanks for the kind words David. The boiler wasn't hard to mask. There is a raised line along the boiler casting that makes the masking the color transition easy. Simple blue masking tape is all that it took. The "grey" is Scale Coat smoke box grey and the rest is painted with a generic black spray paint from Wal-mart.
The engine number as well as the tender reporting letters are Dry transfers from Woodland Scenics. Any number decal could be used but I chose the dry transfers only because Woodlands had the large ER&C I wanted. Hope this helps.
Thanks so much. I was also wondering where you got the figures.
Since my previous post I have revamped 6153 and did a replica of 6035.
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Ex silver 2023 Alco. Now dual motored PRR.
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Great job all! Really inspiring. I think this is my favorite thread of the year so far!!
@David Silvestri posted:Thanks so much. I was also wondering where you got the figures.
If memory serves, they are MTH engineer figures.
I mentioned and should have posted my Lionel starter set O-8-0 bashed into a Great Western 2-8-0. Here it is. Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette just had an article on Forneys that went west to logging roads after electrification....with no small geared locos in three rail, maybe l could gin up a Forney.
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but does anyone remember a man in one of the dealer halls at York that used to kit-bash two post-war steamers into one PRR K4s? This would been 2000 (probably before)-2003? Lionel had not yet released their realistic K4s yet, MTH's K4s had come and gone (1997), and the only other versions of this locomotive were 1990's brass Willams and Weaver.
George
@Putnam Division posted:If I recall correctly (Rich, Ed will know), in OGR the video (16 issues 94-97) had 2 segments on a man called Bill Roberts who kit-bashed Lionel locomotives....maybe we'll see these one day as they convert some of the old videos to the digital format.
Peter
George.....in answer to your question, maybe this was the fellow..............and, maybe, someday, these shorts will be digitalized and made available. His work was amazing.........
Peter
There was a gentleman named Bob Gale who created scale-sized and custom-detailed large locos out of Lionel components. I'm not sure if he ever did a K4 but I've personally seen a Big Boy and a Reading T1 that he did. They're not as accurate as the purpose-built models made after '89 but impressive for the time. Although they had motors I'm guessing most of the owners displayed them because wide-radius layouts weren't at all common then.
