Alright, what's everyone hoping to see in January's catalog? Personally I'm hoping for more small legacy steam.
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Top of my wishlist would be a VisionLine UP FEF or VisionLine Berkshires. Other items of interest would be Canadian Heritage Units, Siemens Charger and I wouldn't turn down any UP 21-inch cars.
I am wishing for a comeback of Lionel's Standard Gauge Classic series, another round of Legacy 2-8-0, a rerun of a SF 3000, and reasonable prices!
Legacy GP9 Santa Fe in bookend yellow and blue. Would also like smaller Legacy Steam.
Hopefully some of these...
Art Lockman & Howard Fogg support cars
Frisco 1522:
Southern Ps-4's
Lionel Southern Big Emma Auxiliary Tenders
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Finish the American Freedom Train as promised. At least give us the two Showcase Cars, and maybe the power/bunk car since you already have the molds from the earlier power/exit car.
@vash44 posted:Top of my wishlist would be a VisionLine UP FEF or VisionLine Berkshires. Other items of interest would be Canadian Heritage Units, Siemens Charger and I wouldn't turn down any UP 21-inch cars.
They could do like a 49er or a Golden Spike Inspired 8444.
O scale SOO LINE three-bay, open-top hoppers
O scale SOO LINE 57' mechanical refrigerator cars.
O scale SOO LINE 52' gondolas with covers
O scale SOO LINE 40' trailers on SOO LINE 52' flat cars
O scale SOO LINE GP30 diesel-electric locomotives
Andrew
I'm easy. Something PW-inspired, maybe even a conventional runner. Would love to see a remake set, steam or diesel. But will also settle for one of the several flavors of Lion Chief/LC+.
I'm gonna keep it small this time around, since much of what I want has been made already, including by Lionel.
- B36-7's with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details
- GE Arrow 3 Rail Commuter Cars with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details (specifically the NJ Transit cars)
- Scale road-railers (maybe use the Weaver Models tooling?)
Legacy Genesis and Legacy SUBWAYS and MU CARS!!! PLEASE!! After getting and enjoying two of the three previous subways offered (The QT and EE trains) I want more. Let's hope! Scale R42 E train and post GOH R32s would get my money in no time at all.
I may also suggest F40ph, GP38-2, newly tooled FP45, and a newly tooled N&W auxiliary water tender.
Id like to see some Illinois Central (Panama Limited or City of New Orleans) decorated 21 inch cars to complement the E6 engines from two years ago. Kind of like Ron above, the engines have been made, but not the cars to pull behind them. Same is true for many of the Sunset 3rd Rail E6's from a few years ago. Lots of great E6 liveries, but unless you are running Sant Fe or a few selected others, we have no RTR passenger cars for many of the engines produced.
Charlie
Any maybe some Blue Frisco Meteor passenger cars, too!
Subway train, streetcar, and/or trolley. 
And let's not forget a newly tooled N&W A Class #1218
I would like to see an upgrade to the LionChief App that lets you control multiple locos simultaneously and some more LC+ 2.0 locos
Like it once was......
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@RJ I posted:Maybe this will be the year that Lionel makes the scale Strasburg products they have been teasing for a few years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I would so love that. I have all these strasburg cars and nothing to pull them with.
Maybe they should also bring back the 89, but only this time in LEGACY.
My wish list is simple. Any engine that I do not immediately have to return to the dealer or send to Lionel for repair or broken parts. Ditto for passenger cars too.
and......I would love to see the return of the 18” aluminum streamlined passenger cars.
Donald
the return of conventional classics as i'm losing faith in lionchief
(my remote went completely dead even with fresh batteries)
another run of tier 4 locomotives perhaps the CN units
postwar S2 turbine
a cheaper modern ZW
a Rock N Roll themed train
semi scale e units
a baby dreyfus hudson
a Steelers train
How about a semi-scale, conventional steamer for us old school fans? JohnA
Cody beat me to the conventional post by 2 minutes! JohnA
I'd like to see a scale Rock Island Fifty One Hundred series legacy steam engine. PROTOTYPE Rock Island engine, that is. Not a re-branded Santa Fe unit. 
Oh well, us R.I. fans can always wish, can't we? 
Heck, I might even go for a fairly accurate LC+ 2.0 and beyond version. 
A Providence and Worcester GP . More Lionel Lines stuff and traditional O gauge cars.
I'm hoping (against astronomical odds) for one of their very few Canadian pickings to be an older railway like the Northern Alberta, Intercolonial, Dominion Atlantic, or Canadian Northern. Incredibly doubtful, but a railroader can dream....
-Reading Car # 15 (either clerestory or balloon roof) to match the recent Reading passenger cars
-Rutland "Route of the Whippet" caboose, in boxcar red/brown, using the tooling of the recent NYC video cabooses (doesn't even need the video component)
-Upgrade kit to convert older Lionchief/Lionchief Plus locomotives to give the ability to run these engines with Legacy.
Well I'm looking for a Star Trek Original Series set. The TNG is on my computer piecing together a mini review.
I have nothing pressing I need so I'll wait and see what comes out. Hopefully maybe some of the great hobo accessories.
A LionChief Plus 2.0 #221 Dreyfus with matching 2400 Series cars painted for the 20th Century Limited.
A LionChief Plus 2.0 PRR L1s.
Jon 
How about a re-issue of the Boston & Albany Berkshire with a green version this time.
RON- K line made a UP boxcar like you are looking for . John A
I like Paigetrain mention of a cheaper modern ZW! Perhaps 150 watts like the old VW transformer would be nice.
@KOOLjock1 posted:A LionChief Plus 2.0 #221 Dreyfus with matching 2400 Series cars painted for the 20th Century Limited.
A LionChief Plus 2.0 PRR L1s.
Jon
Maybe even a LEGACY version of the #221 Dreyfuss Hudson.
Not saying this needs to be a set necessarily, the BNSF 25th anniversary ES44AC, along with the heritage hoppers.
And as always bring back the postwar reissues.
Bill
Would really like to see a Visionline Milwaukee Road Hiawatha.
Great ideas everyone, how about offering some 0-4-0 Steamers with slope back tenders scale switcher, in several road names, like the older post war/prewar 1656/1615 models. I’d like it to have a smoking whistle and the normal Legacy dynamics. I’ve wanted one of these for years. I would like it wired from the tender track pick ups through the locomotive track pick ups so it would run through all turnouts. It could be a brass hybrid model, just a cool feature rich little Shifter Steamer. Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas Everyone.
N&W dynamometer car
I was going to post a snarky comment, but I'm just waiting for this whole Covid-19 mess to be relegated to the dustbin of history. I don't need reminders.
Rusty
Lehigh Valley C-420 yellow jacket as a direct offering from Lionel, NOT a custom run from a dealer.
@@T1Titan_ZachF posted:
Like it once was......
We have had 4 different models of 4-6-0 Camelbacks in O scale 3-rail, MTH Railking, MTH Premier, Williams, and Lionel. It would be great to see a different wheel arrangement such as a 2-8-0.
YES to subways with opening and closing doors and 21 inch Penn Congressional passenger car sets
I'd like to see a Rock Island Bankruptcy Blue GP38-2 or GP7 and a bay window caboose to go with them.
How about the complete 21 inch Great Northern Empire Builder set to match the GN Dome car they cataloged recently.
Scale Rotary snowplow preferably southern pacific
18" passenger cars. MTH produced 8-14 sets per catalog! 
There's a market out here Lionel. It's your move.
@MikeH posted:18" passenger cars. MTH produced 8-14 sets per catalog!
Definitely yes! Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.
@Brian DeFazio posted:Definitely yes! Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.
Add me to the chorus. I want 18" passenger cars too!
@Brian DeFazio posted:Definitely yes! Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.
Unfortunately, the MSRP on a Lionel 4-car set would probably be $800 
@sstadts posted:How about the complete 21 inch Great Northern Empire Builder set to match the GN Dome car they cataloged recently.
Did Lionel post a 21" GN Empire Builder Great Dome car??
Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.
@MikeH posted:Unfortunately, the MSRP on a Lionel 4-car set would probably be $800
I agree with you Mike, but just for perspective, $200 a car is still the entry level price point for RTR scale passenger cars today. The next level up would be the Golden Gate Depot offerings at $300.00 per car. Are the GGD cars $100.00 better? that is up to the buyer. Some will say yes and some will say no, but you can bet that what ever the price is now/today, will be more the next time anything is announced due to the rising cost of production.
Obviously E-*** pricing and history is a pretty good indicator of secondary market value and it is pretty clear that engines/rolling stock that were "over priced" only a few years ago are now reselling for full list and more?
Seems kind of funny, what was "too much" a few years ago is now Ok... go figure.
So yes, $200 is a lot of money now for some folks, but I predict in a few years, $200 cars will be cheap.
It's all perspective.
Charlie
@raising4daughters posted:Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.
Even better, a Lionel Lines LC Hudson!
Clever Halloween cars + accessories. Always.
I'm still hoping licensing issues get worked for "Spy v. Spy" and Alfred. 
@Jeff B. Haertlein posted:Did Lionel post a 21" GN Empire Builder Great Dome car??
I don't think so, unless I missed it. They do have the tooling, though, and with a few minor modifications it would be spot on. Lionel did catalog an Empire Builder short dome car this year.
It would be great to see a reasonably accurate scale 1956 Empire Builder. K-Line made one more than 15 years ago, but it was missing a couple of car types, and the window arrangements for some of the cars were a bit off. Golden Gate Depot made an Empire Builder set just a few years ago, but it was the 1947 version with the dome cars added, which is not at all accurate. By the time the dome cars were added in 1956, the other cars had all been replaced since 1947. Maybe Lionel will make it somewhat more accurate for the train with the domes? Maybe GGD will reissue an accurate version someday?
@raising4daughters posted:Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.
Whistle steam!
NORX cars with the yellow meatball logo.
BRITISH COLUMBIA RAILWAY
O scale 52' gondola
O scale 52' flat car with 40' trailer
PACIFIC GREAT EASTERN
O scale 52' gondola
O scale 52' flat car with refrigerated 40' trailer
Andrew
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LionScale O scale
ROCK ISLAND and THE ROCK blue ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hopper sets
The Rock Island had a small number of ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hoppers
Some of them were in the original paint scheme to the end of THE ROCK
Some of them were repainted in the blue THE ROCK scheme in the late 1970's.
There needs to be an ACCURATELY numbered and printed version of all of them produced in 2 sets.
ROCK 13978-13987
Built in 1967
Andrew
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LionScale O scale
ACF Center Flow 3560 cu. ft. 3-bay covered hoppers
C&O Chesapeake & Ohio original paint scheme
ARR ALASKA RAILROAD
DM&IR Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range
DM Detroit & Mackinac reporting marks on the Duluth, Missabe & iron Range covered hoppers that have the body and graphics in a weathered or worn appearance.
ICG ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF
These ACF CENTER FLOW covered hoppers need to be equipped with the high-end roller bearing trucks
Andrew
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LionScale O scale
Plug-Door 50' modern boxcars
CENTRAL VERMONT CV 50095-50099 in the White & black body scheme with Green graphics.
MD&W in the 1980's green scheme
BAR BANGOR AND AROOSTOOK in bright red
ONT Ontario Northland
CP CP Rail in the INSULATED CAR yellow scheme
Andrew
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The Made in China PS-1 40' boxcars painted for:
Lake Superior & Ishpeming
Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern
Andrew
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Oneonta what did you not like about the custom run yellow jacket Lehigh Valley C-420 from Mr Muffins. While we are at it how about a snow bird C-630
O scale Grand Trunk Western 52' gondola in the 1970's and 1980's blue scheme
These gondola could be found in this series
GTW 147000 -147999 series
Andrew
LionChief Plus 2.0 versions of the O gauge GP38-2 diesel locomotive for these railroads
GRAND TRUNK WESTERN 5800-5832
THE ROCK 4300-4373
SOO LINE original red reflective SOO 4400-4409
SOO LINE later black SOO 4410-4452
Andrew
Anything that hasn't been done in ten years or more.
I would like to see Lionel invest in more GE U and B boat locos. Maybe a modular design to incorporate the u28-U36B as well as the B23-7 to the B36-7.
An fl9 in all paint jobs
For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.
036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves. Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive? May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive. Like maybe a USRA Pacific.
@Sparty1225 posted:For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.
036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves. Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive? May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive. Like maybe a USRA Pacific.
I love the bells and whistles and my biggest curve is O-36. I'll second introducing more of the cool new smoke/steam features in smaller-radius engines, especially steam coming out down near the wheels!
Here's a pretty simple request - an operating and uncoupling Fastrack that responds to command control. If the switches can be run on command control, why not the operating and uncoupling tracks?
@trainbob posted:Oneonta what did you not like about the custom run yellow jacket Lehigh Valley C-420 from Mr Muffins. While we are at it how about a snow bird C-630
Bob,
No comment on the offering other then the fact that custom runs tend to be small quantities, if it is a catalog item the quantity and distribution could be greater. Lionel did an LV yellow jacket many years ago but it was not Legacy. Agree on the C-630, either red or snowbird......I missed the opportunity when Atlas O offered these.
LionScale O scale 50' box cars with Roller bearing trucks
Sabine River & Northern 50' box cars built in 1978
SRN 5300-5399
Central Vermont 50' box cars built in 1979
Grand Trunk Western 50' box cars built in 1974
In the original 1974 paint scheme and lettering applied by Berwick Forge & Foundry
MARINETTE, TOMAHAWK & WESTERN 50' box cars built in 1978
http://canadianfreightcargalle...?i=mtw4512&o=mtw
Andrew
@BC1989 posted:Here's a pretty simple request - an operating and uncoupling Fastrack that responds to command control. If the switches can be run on command control, why not the operating and uncoupling tracks?
This is an excellent idea.
@SIRT posted:Items that haven't been offered in O as of today...
Great pictures! I would love to see Lionel offer more traditional 6464 sized boxcars besides personalized birthday cars and scooby doo.
Penn Central GP9, GP35 and PS2-CD hoppers.
Tom
Conrail long-porch SD40-2
Love that stretched look......
Perry
I’d love to see:
1. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class M specifically #382
2. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class A specifically #1218 (one that’s to scale)
3. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class Y6a specifically #2156
4. Lionel Southern 21in passenger cars
Surprise us.
I love to see a oil tender like a scale SP tender for separate sale. yes I took the pics. don
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The 1940's era A.A.R. double-door 50' boxcars with opening end doors for ramp loading still have not been produced in the 1950's and 1960's paint schemes of the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN.
GTW 591500 series in the 1950's scheme
https://searcharchives.vancouv...rn-rly-boxcar-591598
GTW 591200 series in the 1960's scheme
https://searcharchives.vancouv...estern-boxcar-591236
Those would match the previously produced GTW diesel locomotives and freight cars.
Andrew
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The North American Car Company built a large number of Pressure-Differential covered hoppers.
There were two main versions.
The Pd-3000
The Pd-5000
They have not been produced in O scale/O gauge or S scale/S gauge.
Andrew
2 Rail Legacy engines
I picked up a single 21" Amtrak dome car for a great price on the bay and was suitably impressed to want to see a set with baggage, coaches, diner, lounge, and sleepers in Phase III Amtrak. Would really like a dorm baggage, but even on a wish list we can't have it all. I'll hold out for a GGD SS Limited one to repaint.
I'd like:
The new Acela
another Vat car
a Fastrack turntable
and anything in Erie or NYO&W assuming they are done in the correct colors
and another stimulus check to pay for it!
A Fonda Johnstown & Gloversville (FJ&G) ALCO S2 #21. A new paint scheme for existing tooling. It is a great paint scheme.
I like NYO&W too.
And D&H steam like a 4-8-4, or 4-6-2 with smoke deflectors.
"a Fastrack turntable"
That would be cool
Do you need a manual FasTrak turntable or a Command Controlled, powered FasTrak turntable?
Andrew
The Pullman-Standard later PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers that are 2600 Cubic Foot Capacity that are much taller than the earlier version of the PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers that are 2006 Cu. Ft. still have to be made in O scale and S scale.
Andrew
Standard O plastic body, three-bay, open-top hoppers for these railroads
B&M Boston & Maine
D&M Detroit & Mackinac
B&O Chessie System
C&O Chessie System
LEFC Lake Erie, Franklin & Clarion
SOO LINE SOO LINE
SBD Seaboard System
WM Chessie System
Andrew
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@falconservice posted:Do you need a manual FasTrak turntable or a Command Controlled, powered FasTrak turntable?
Andrew
A command control turntable wound be nice, sort of like what Bachman has in HO.
Better couplers for the last run of O scale 89' flat cars with Auto Racks.
O scale plastic automobile 12-Pack priced at $36 for the Auto Racks on 89' flat cars.
Andrew
O scale MONON 52' gondola
Standard O MONON 42' gondolas
MONON 40' trailer on MONON 52' flat car
MONON 52' flat car with bulkheads and side posts to hold containers
Andrew
Considering that I'm sure Lionel has already long since worked out what they will put in their 2021 offerings, perhaps this thread would be better named "Lionel 2022 Catalog Wishlist"
Comparatively "easy" things to do that wouldn't likely require new tooling:
- Larger sizes of manual Fastrack switches (up to O-72). The command are fantastic but there are some spots on the layout I may not use so often where manual would be fine (and my wallet would be finer).
- ATSF bookend scheme GP30, SD40, and/or SD45
- B&O GP30 (hasn't been made since TMCC era)
- B&O F units in passenger colors (also haven't been made since TMCC)
"New" items that may require more work/tooling:
- New sound sets for the EMD diesels (this one-size-fits-all sound set is getting a bit old)
- F45/FP45: could be done in ATSF warbonnet, ATSF blue and yellow, ATSF bookend, Montana Rail Link, Milwaukee Road, Great Northern blue, Burlington Northern, and Wisconsin Central, as far as I can think. If modular tooling were used with a few tweaks especially to the front pilot, Amtrak SDP40F's could be made from the basic tooling too.)
GP-30 Southern
GP-30 L&N
Legacy 20th Century Limited J3a and matching 21' cars.
Last time Lionel cataloged a '38 20th Century Limited it was in 2002 and the matching passenger cars are the 16' shorties
