Lionel 2021 catalog wishlist

Top of my wishlist would be a VisionLine UP FEF or VisionLine Berkshires. Other items of interest would be Canadian Heritage Units, Siemens Charger and I wouldn't turn down any UP 21-inch cars.

I am wishing for a comeback of Lionel's Standard Gauge Classic series, another round of Legacy 2-8-0, a rerun of a SF 3000, and reasonable prices!

Legacy GP9 Santa Fe in bookend yellow and blue.  Would also like smaller Legacy Steam.

Hopefully some of these...

Art Lockman & Howard Fogg support cars

Frisco 1522:

Southern Ps-4's

Lionel Southern Big Emma Auxiliary Tenders

Finish the American Freedom Train as promised.  At least give us the two Showcase Cars, and maybe the power/bunk car since you already have the molds from the earlier power/exit car.

@vash44 posted:

Top of my wishlist would be a VisionLine UP FEF or VisionLine Berkshires. Other items of interest would be Canadian Heritage Units, Siemens Charger and I wouldn't turn down any UP 21-inch cars.

They could do like a 49er or a Golden Spike Inspired 8444.

O scale SOO LINE three-bay, open-top hoppers

O scale SOO LINE 57' mechanical refrigerator cars.

O scale SOO LINE 52' gondolas with covers

O scale SOO LINE 40' trailers on SOO LINE 52' flat cars

O scale SOO LINE GP30 diesel-electric locomotives

Andrew

I'm easy. Something PW-inspired, maybe even a conventional runner. Would love to see a remake set, steam or diesel. But will also settle for one of the several flavors of Lion Chief/LC+.

I'm gonna keep it small this time around, since much of what I want has been made already, including by Lionel.

• B36-7's with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details
• GE Arrow 3 Rail Commuter Cars with LEGACY, kinematic pilots, Kadee mounts, and road specific details (specifically the NJ Transit cars)
• Scale road-railers (maybe use the Weaver Models tooling?)

Legacy Genesis and Legacy SUBWAYS and MU CARS!!! PLEASE!! After getting and enjoying two of the three previous subways offered (The QT and EE trains) I want more. Let's hope! Scale R42 E train and post GOH R32s would get my money in no time at all. 

Maybe this will be the year that Lionel makes the scale Strasburg products they have been teasing for a few years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I may also suggest F40ph, GP38-2, newly tooled FP45, and a newly tooled N&W auxiliary water tender.

Id like to see some Illinois Central (Panama Limited or City of New Orleans) decorated 21 inch cars to complement the E6 engines from two years ago. Kind of like Ron above, the engines have been made, but not the cars to pull behind them. Same is true for many of the Sunset 3rd Rail E6's from a few years ago. Lots of great E6 liveries, but unless you are running Sant Fe or a few selected others, we have no RTR passenger cars for many of the engines produced.

Charlie

Any maybe some Blue Frisco Meteor passenger cars, too!

Subway train, streetcar, and/or trolley. 

And let's not forget a newly tooled N&W A Class #1218

I would like to see an upgrade to the LionChief App that lets you control multiple locos simultaneously and some more LC+ 2.0 locos

Like it once was......

@RJ I posted:

Maybe this will be the year that Lionel makes the scale Strasburg products they have been teasing for a few years ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I would so love that. I have all these strasburg cars and nothing to pull them with.

Maybe they should also bring back the 89, but only this time in LEGACY.

My wish list is simple. Any engine that I do not immediately have to return to the dealer or send to Lionel for repair or broken parts. Ditto for passenger cars too.

and......I would love to see the return of the 18” aluminum streamlined passenger cars.

Donald

the return of conventional classics as i'm losing faith in lionchief

(my remote went completely dead even with fresh batteries)

another run of tier 4 locomotives perhaps the CN units

postwar S2 turbine

a cheaper modern ZW

a Rock N Roll themed train

semi scale e units

a baby dreyfus hudson

a Steelers train

How about a semi-scale, conventional steamer for us old school fans? JohnA

Cody beat me to the conventional post by 2 minutes! JohnA

I'd like to see a scale Rock Island Fifty One Hundred series legacy steam engine.  PROTOTYPE Rock Island engine, that is.  Not a re-branded Santa Fe unit.

Oh well, us R.I. fans can always wish, can't we?

Heck, I might even go for a fairly accurate LC+ 2.0 and beyond version.

LionScale 40' DD Express TTG

#s 9210-9219

A Providence and Worcester GP . More Lionel Lines stuff and traditional O gauge cars.

I'm hoping (against astronomical odds) for one of their very few Canadian pickings to be an older railway like the Northern Alberta, Intercolonial, Dominion Atlantic, or Canadian Northern.  Incredibly doubtful, but a railroader can dream....

@WITZ 41 posted:

LionScale 40' DD Express TTG

#s 9210-9219

Until they make the 40' version, you can look for the Weaver 50' DD express car.

-Reading Car # 15 (either clerestory or balloon roof) to match the recent Reading passenger cars

-Rutland "Route of the Whippet" caboose, in boxcar red/brown, using the tooling of the recent NYC video cabooses (doesn't even need the video component)

-Upgrade kit to convert older Lionchief/Lionchief Plus locomotives to give the ability to run these engines with Legacy.

Well I'm looking for a Star Trek Original Series set.  The TNG is on my computer piecing together a mini review.

I have nothing pressing I need so I'll wait and see what comes out.  Hopefully maybe some of the great hobo accessories.

A LionChief Plus 2.0 #221 Dreyfus with matching 2400 Series cars  painted for the 20th Century Limited.

A LionChief Plus 2.0 PRR L1s.

Jon

How about a re-issue of the Boston & Albany Berkshire with a green version this time.

RON- K line made a  UP boxcar like you are looking for . John A

I like Paigetrain mention of a cheaper modern ZW!   Perhaps 150 watts like the old VW transformer would be nice.

@KOOLjock1 posted:

A LionChief Plus 2.0 #221 Dreyfus with matching 2400 Series cars  painted for the 20th Century Limited.

A LionChief Plus 2.0 PRR L1s.

Jon

Maybe even a LEGACY version of the #221 Dreyfuss Hudson.

Not saying this needs to be a set necessarily, the BNSF 25th anniversary ES44AC, along with the heritage hoppers.

And as always bring back the postwar reissues.

Bill

Would really like to see a Visionline Milwaukee Road Hiawatha. 

Great ideas everyone, how about offering some 0-4-0 Steamers with slope back tenders scale switcher, in several road names,  like the older post war/prewar 1656/1615 models. I’d like it to have a smoking whistle and the normal Legacy dynamics. I’ve wanted one of these for years. I would like it wired from the tender track pick ups through the locomotive track pick ups so it would run through all turnouts. It could be a brass hybrid model, just a cool feature rich little Shifter Steamer. Thanks for listening. Merry Christmas Everyone.

N&W dynamometer car

I was going to post a snarky comment, but I'm just waiting for this whole Covid-19 mess to be relegated to the dustbin of history.  I don't need reminders.

Rusty

Lehigh Valley C-420 yellow jacket as a direct offering from Lionel,  NOT a custom run from a dealer.

@@T1Titan_ZachF posted:

Like it once was......

We have had 4 different models of 4-6-0 Camelbacks in O scale 3-rail, MTH Railking, MTH Premier, Williams, and Lionel. It would be great to see a different wheel arrangement such as a 2-8-0.

YES to subways with opening and closing doors and 21 inch Penn Congressional passenger car sets

I'd like to see a Rock Island Bankruptcy Blue GP38-2 or GP7 and a bay window caboose to go with them.

How about the complete 21 inch Great Northern Empire Builder set to match the GN Dome car they cataloged recently.

Scale Rotary snowplow preferably southern pacific

18" passenger cars.  MTH produced 8-14 sets per catalog! There's a market out here Lionel.  It's your move.

@MikeH posted:

18" passenger cars.  MTH produced 8-14 sets per catalog! There's a market out here Lionel.  It's your move.

Definitely yes!  Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.

@Brian DeFazio posted:

Definitely yes!  Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.

Add me to the chorus. I want 18" passenger cars too!

@Brian DeFazio posted:

Definitely yes!  Not everyone can run 21" cars and 15" is too small to look realistic.

Unfortunately, the MSRP on a Lionel 4-car set would probably be $800

@sstadts posted:

How about the complete 21 inch Great Northern Empire Builder set to match the GN Dome car they cataloged recently.

Did Lionel post a  21" GN Empire Builder  Great Dome car??

Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.

@MikeH posted:

Unfortunately, the MSRP on a Lionel 4-car set would probably be $800

I agree with you Mike, but just for perspective, $200 a car is still the entry level price point for RTR scale passenger cars today. The next level up would be the Golden Gate Depot offerings at $300.00 per car. Are the GGD cars $100.00 better? that is up to the buyer. Some will say yes and some will say no, but you can bet that what ever the price is now/today, will be more the next time anything is announced due to the rising cost of production.

Obviously E-*** pricing and history is a pretty good indicator of secondary market value and it is pretty clear that engines/rolling stock that were "over priced" only a few years ago are now reselling for full list and more?

Seems kind of funny, what was "too much" a few years ago is now Ok... go figure.

So yes, $200 is a lot of money now for some folks, but I predict in a few years, $200 cars will be cheap.

It's all perspective.

Charlie

@raising4daughters posted:

Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.

Even better, a Lionel Lines LC  Hudson!

Clever Halloween cars + accessories.  Always.

I'm still hoping licensing issues get worked for "Spy v. Spy" and Alfred. 

@Jeff B. Haertlein posted:

Did Lionel post a  21" GN Empire Builder  Great Dome car??

I don't think so, unless I missed it.  They do have the tooling, though, and with a few minor modifications it would be spot on.  Lionel did catalog an Empire Builder short dome car this year.

It would be great to see a reasonably accurate scale 1956 Empire Builder.  K-Line made one more than 15 years ago, but it was missing a couple of car types, and the window arrangements for some of the cars were a bit off.  Golden Gate Depot made an Empire Builder set just a few years ago, but it was the 1947 version with the dome cars added, which is not at all accurate.  By the time the dome cars were added in 1956, the other cars had all been replaced since 1947.  Maybe Lionel will make it somewhat more accurate for the train with the domes?  Maybe GGD will reissue an accurate version someday?

@raising4daughters posted:

Lionmaster Hudson with LC+ 2.0, 4 chuffs, etc.

Whistle steam!

NORX cars with the yellow meatball logo.

BRITISH COLUMBIA RAILWAY

O scale 52' gondola

O scale 52' flat car with 40' trailer

PACIFIC GREAT EASTERN

O scale 52' gondola

O scale 52' flat car with refrigerated 40' trailer

Andrew

Falcon Service

LionScale O scale

ROCK ISLAND and THE ROCK blue ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hopper sets

The Rock Island had a small number of ACF CENTER FLOW 5250 cu. ft., 4-bay covered hoppers

Some of them were in the original paint scheme to the end of THE ROCK

Some of them were repainted in the blue THE ROCK scheme in the late 1970's.

There needs to be an ACCURATELY numbered and printed version of all of them produced in 2 sets.

ROCK 13978-13987

Built in 1967

Andrew

Falcon Service

LionScale O scale

ACF Center Flow 3560 cu. ft. 3-bay covered hoppers

C&O Chesapeake & Ohio original paint scheme

ARR ALASKA RAILROAD

DM&IR Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range

DM  Detroit & Mackinac reporting marks on the Duluth, Missabe & iron Range covered hoppers that have the body and graphics in a weathered or worn appearance.

ICG ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF

These ACF CENTER FLOW covered hoppers need to be equipped with the high-end roller bearing trucks

Andrew

Falcon Service

LionScale O scale

Plug-Door 50' modern boxcars

CENTRAL VERMONT CV 50095-50099 in the White & black body scheme with Green graphics.

MD&W in the 1980's green scheme

BAR BANGOR AND AROOSTOOK in bright red

ONT Ontario Northland

CP   CP Rail in the INSULATED CAR yellow scheme

Andrew

Falcon Service

The Made in China PS-1 40' boxcars painted for:

Lake Superior & Ishpeming

Minneapolis, Northfield & Southern

Andrew

Falcon Service

Oneonta what did you not like about the custom run yellow jacket Lehigh Valley C-420 from Mr Muffins. While we are at it how about a snow bird C-630

O scale Grand Trunk Western 52' gondola in the 1970's and 1980's blue scheme

These gondola could be found in this series

GTW 147000 -147999 series

Andrew

LionChief Plus 2.0 versions of the O gauge GP38-2 diesel locomotive for these railroads

GRAND TRUNK WESTERN 5800-5832

THE ROCK    4300-4373

SOO LINE original red reflective SOO    4400-4409

SOO LINE later black SOO   4410-4452

Andrew

Anything that hasn't been done in ten years or more.

I would like to see Lionel invest in more GE U and B boat locos. Maybe a modular design to incorporate the u28-U36B as well as the B23-7 to the B36-7.

An fl9 in all paint jobs

For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.

036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves.  Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive?  May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive.  Like maybe a USRA Pacific.  

@Sparty1225 posted:

For me I have been loving a lot of what has been offered The last 3-4 years.

036 curve rated CN diesel legacy and would love to see more like the H10. Tons of features that can navigate 036 curves.  Would they / could they fit cylinder steam and whistle/dynamo steam in a 036 rated locomotive?  May creep to vision line but would like to try and get those features in a 036 locomotive.  Like maybe a USRA Pacific.  

I love the bells and whistles and my biggest curve is O-36.  I'll second introducing more of the cool new smoke/steam features in smaller-radius engines, especially steam coming out down near the wheels!

Here's a pretty simple request - an operating and uncoupling Fastrack that responds to command control.  If the switches can be run on command control, why not the operating and uncoupling tracks?

@trainbob posted:

Oneonta what did you not like about the custom run yellow jacket Lehigh Valley C-420 from Mr Muffins. While we are at it how about a snow bird C-630

Bob,

No comment on the offering other then the fact that custom runs tend to be small quantities, if it is a catalog item the quantity and distribution could be greater. Lionel did an LV yellow jacket many years ago but it was not Legacy. Agree on the C-630, either red or snowbird......I missed the opportunity when Atlas O offered these.   

LionScale O scale 50' box cars with Roller bearing trucks

Sabine River & Northern 50' box cars built in 1978

SRN  5300-5399

Central Vermont 50' box cars built in 1979

CV 600125-600199

Grand Trunk Western 50' box cars built in 1974

In the original 1974 paint scheme and lettering applied by Berwick Forge & Foundry

GTW 309300-309399

MARINETTE, TOMAHAWK & WESTERN 50' box cars built in 1978

http://canadianfreightcargalle...?i=mtw4512&o=mtw

MTW 4400-4599

Andrew

@BC1989 posted:

Here's a pretty simple request - an operating and uncoupling Fastrack that responds to command control.  If the switches can be run on command control, why not the operating and uncoupling tracks?

This is an excellent idea.

   Items that haven't been offered in O as of today...

@SIRT posted:

   Items that haven't been offered in O as of today...

Great pictures! I would love to see Lionel offer more traditional 6464 sized boxcars besides personalized birthday cars and scooby doo.

Penn Central GP9, GP35 and PS2-CD hoppers.

Tom

Conrail long-porch SD40-2

Love that stretched look......

Perry

I’d love to see:

1. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class M specifically #382
2. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class A specifically #1218 (one that’s to scale)

3. A Lionel Legacy N&W Class Y6a specifically #2156

4. Lionel Southern 21in passenger cars

Surprise us.

I love to see a oil tender like a scale SP tender for separate sale. yes I took the pics. don

The 1940's era A.A.R. double-door 50' boxcars with opening end doors for ramp loading still have not been produced in the 1950's and 1960's paint schemes of the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN.

GTW 591500 series in the 1950's scheme

https://searcharchives.vancouv...rn-rly-boxcar-591598

GTW 591200 series in the 1960's scheme

https://searcharchives.vancouv...estern-boxcar-591236

Those would match the previously produced GTW diesel locomotives and freight cars.

Andrew

Falcon Service

The North American Car Company built a large number of Pressure-Differential covered hoppers.

There were two main versions.

The Pd-3000

The Pd-5000

They have not been produced in O scale/O gauge or S scale/S gauge. 

Andrew

2 Rail Legacy engines

I picked up a single 21" Amtrak dome car for a great price on the bay and was suitably impressed to want to see a set with baggage, coaches, diner, lounge, and sleepers in Phase III Amtrak.   Would really like a dorm baggage, but even on a wish list we can't have it all.  I'll hold out for a GGD SS Limited one to repaint.

I'd like:

The new Acela

another Vat car

a Fastrack turntable

and anything in Erie  or NYO&W assuming they are done in the correct colors

and another stimulus check to pay for it!

A Fonda Johnstown & Gloversville (FJ&G) ALCO S2 #21. A new paint scheme for existing tooling. It is a great paint scheme.

I like NYO&W too.

And D&H steam like a 4-8-4, or 4-6-2 with smoke deflectors.

"a Fastrack turntable"

That would be cool

Do you need a manual FasTrak turntable or a Command Controlled, powered FasTrak turntable?

Andrew

The Pullman-Standard later PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers that are 2600 Cubic Foot Capacity that are much taller than the earlier version of the PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers that are 2006 Cu. Ft. still have to be made in O scale and S scale.

Andrew

Standard O plastic body, three-bay, open-top hoppers for these railroads

B&M Boston & Maine

D&M Detroit & Mackinac

B&O Chessie System

C&O Chessie System 

LEFC Lake Erie, Franklin & Clarion

SOO LINE     SOO LINE

SBD Seaboard System

WM Chessie System

Andrew

Falcon Service

@falconservice posted:

Do you need a manual FasTrak turntable or a Command Controlled, powered FasTrak turntable?

Andrew

A command control turntable wound be nice, sort of like what Bachman has in HO.

Better couplers for the last run of O scale 89' flat cars with Auto Racks.

O scale plastic automobile 12-Pack priced at $36 for the Auto Racks on 89' flat cars.

Andrew

O scale MONON 52' gondola

Standard O MONON 42' gondolas

MONON 40' trailer on MONON 52' flat car

MONON 52' flat car with bulkheads and side posts to hold containers

Andrew

Considering that I'm sure Lionel has already long since worked out what they will put in their 2021 offerings, perhaps this thread would be better named "Lionel 2022 Catalog Wishlist"

Comparatively "easy" things to do that wouldn't likely require new tooling:

- Larger sizes of manual Fastrack switches (up to O-72).  The command are fantastic but there are some spots on the layout I may not use so often where manual would be fine (and my wallet would be finer).

- ATSF bookend scheme GP30, SD40, and/or SD45

- B&O GP30 (hasn't been made since TMCC era)

- B&O F units in passenger colors (also haven't been made since TMCC)

"New" items that may require more work/tooling:

- New sound sets for the EMD diesels (this one-size-fits-all sound set is getting a bit old)

- F45/FP45: could be done in ATSF warbonnet, ATSF blue and yellow, ATSF bookend, Montana Rail Link, Milwaukee Road, Great Northern blue, Burlington Northern, and Wisconsin Central, as far as I can think.  If modular tooling were used with a few tweaks especially to the front pilot, Amtrak SDP40F's could be made from the basic tooling too.)

GP-30 Southern

GP-30 L&N

Legacy 20th Century Limited J3a and matching 21' cars.

Last time Lionel cataloged a '38 20th Century Limited it was in 2002 and the matching passenger cars are the 16' shorties

@Jedderbob posted:

Legacy 20th Century Limited J3a and matching 21' cars.

Last time Lionel cataloged a '38 20th Century Limited it was in 2002 and the matching passenger cars are the 16' shorties

I agree. They had a legacy one cataloged a number of years ago with matching 18" cars but it was never made.

Everyone already posted great suggestions....mine would be more Area 51 and Halloween themed items and a Road Runner train like the one they run in New Mexico.

How about a rechargeable battery powered locomotive?

Or plug n' play track with no need to add extra power feeds or wires under the track?

I'd also like to see more SCALE American Flyer engines with Legacy in S scale.

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

Considering that I'm sure Lionel has already long since worked out what they will put in their 2021 offerings, perhaps this thread would be better named "Lionel 2022 Catalog Wishlist"

Comparatively "easy" things to do that wouldn't likely require new tooling:

- Larger sizes of manual Fastrack switches (up to O-72).  The command are fantastic but there are some spots on the layout I may not use so often where manual would be fine (and my wallet would be finer).

- ATSF bookend scheme GP30, SD40, and/or SD45

- B&O GP30 (hasn't been made since TMCC era)

- B&O F units in passenger colors (also haven't been made since TMCC)

"New" items that may require more work/tooling:

- New sound sets for the EMD diesels (this one-size-fits-all sound set is getting a bit old)

- F45/FP45: could be done in ATSF warbonnet, ATSF blue and yellow, ATSF bookend, Montana Rail Link, Milwaukee Road, Great Northern blue, Burlington Northern, and Wisconsin Central, as far as I can think.  If modular tooling were used with a few tweaks especially to the front pilot, Amtrak SDP40F's could be made from the basic tooling too.)

The NYS&W had a couple of F45's also.

Seems like most engines Lionel brings out tend be NYC, BO, or other east coast railroads.  Maybe an RS3 GBW, but might not sell a lot.  Even a Milw in a Dash 9 or a more modern engine.

Don't know if someone already mentioned it, but a LionChief Plus2 N&W J would be great.

@breezinup posted:

Don't know if someone already mentioned it, but a LionChief Plus2 N&W J would be great.

Another great idea!

More Lionchief 2.0 Christmas color locomotives.

O scale and S scale two-bay, open-top hoppers built in the 1970's and 1980's for rocks or ballast that have the side discharge gates on the bays.

Walthers has made them in HO scale as the 41' ballast hopper.

i would get a train of 12 for The SOO LINE railroad.

Andrew

A slight reworking of the Standard O Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door box car so that it has revised bolsters for accurate roller bearing trucks and wire grab irons.

New high-resolution graphics for the Standard O Exterior-Braced 50' Double-Door box car for these railroads

McCloud River Railroad

Longview, Portland & Northern

WESTERN PACIFIC  early 1970's

Western Pacific late 1970's

Southern Pacific

SSW COTTON BELT

Andrew

Falcon Service

Separate sale 40' trailers. I like these better on the Atlas 89' flats than the Atlas 45' trailers. They're lighter, have better detail and are more realistic for a Chessie-era pig train.

F45.  They already have the trucks and fuel tanks from SD40/45

Western Pacific 1970's era graphics on the 40' trailer

Union Pacific We can handle it. 1970's era graphics on the 40' trailer

Canadian National 1960's and 1970's  40' trailers

REAZ Railway Express Agency 1960's era 40' trailers

VTRZ VERMONT RAILWAY 40' trailers

ROCK ISLAND 40' trailers

Andrew

Budd RDC cars planned by KLINE  but never made.....

More or less correct colors on finished product?

A few ideas I want to see from Lionel in the next catalog:

-Vision Line UP Big Blow 3rd Generation Gas Turbine (plus the original and Veranda Turbines)

-Fastrack Turntable w/ Command Control

-Intermodal Crane w/ Command Control and Sounds

-SD70ACe-T4 w/ Legacy

-Legacy ET44 GEVO

-Amtrak (and other liveries as well) Siemens Charger

-F45 and FP45

-GP60, GP60M, and GP60B

-SD7 and/or SD9

-Weaver Roadrailers

-Command Control Fastrack Uncoupling and Operating Tracks

-A new Operating Track Controller (OTC2 for LCS)

-ATSF Super Chief and/or El Capitan passenger trains

-New Legacy Crane/Boom Car sets

-Amtrak Superliners, Surfliner Cars, and California Cars, including Stationsounds cars

More warbonnet/blackbonnet freight.

Some New York & Atlantic freight and diesels.

My wallet says anything that doesn't interest me...

Well, 2021 will mark 10 years since the last time the H16-44s were cataloged. I have an LIRR one from the initial run in 2011 and it is one of my favorite locomotives in my collection. I personally would love to see an LIRR H16-44 in the Tichy scheme. It would match the new MTH LIRR RS-1 perfectly!

If the Bowser to Weaver to LionScale RoadRailers can be found and produced someday, what needs to be finally produced are the Canadian National versions.

Andrew

@falconservice posted:

If the Bowser to Weaver to LionScale RoadRailers can be found and produced someday, what needs to be finally produced are the Canadian National versions.

Andrew

Yes, I would love to see Canadian National and Canadian Pacific

Has anyone heard any leaks on what will be in the catalog? It's usually out in January.

O scale 40' trailers

BURLINGTON NORTHERN 40' trailers

GREAT NORTHERN 40' trailers

KANSAS CITY SOUTHERN 40' trailers

Andrew

I would love to see some modern-ish commuter stuff. Maybe some F40PH's painted for Metra, Metrolink, VRE, MBTA.... Otherwise another 700E or Milwaukee Road S3.

How about a Lehigh Valley caboose in the snowbird paint scheme or the yellow jacket paint scheme

How about one of NYC "plumbers nightmare's" H10 class Mikados with the overhung Elesco feedwater heater in the vision line?  What other NYC steam is due for a reissue?   Mohawk in the Vision line maybe or Niagria with the twin sealed beam headlight using twin LED"s instead of lenses.  AD

@artfull dodger posted:

How about one of NYC "plumbers nightmare's" H10 class Mikados with the overhung Elesco feedwater heater in the vision line?  What other NYC steam is due for a reissue?   Mohawk in the Vision line maybe or Niagria with the twin sealed beam headlight using twin LED"s instead of lenses.  AD

Sunset Models/3rd rail is coming out with the NYC H10. A brass or a brass hybrid model was the only way we were going to see a model of this specific locomotive.

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#NYCH10A

I have learned to never say Never when it comes to Lionel.  Who would have thought we would see some of the engines they have done thru the years.  I would gamble to say that nothing from the NYC is "off" the table of possible engines as that road name sells well.   The Southern Crescent engines would be my second choice to see from big L.  AD

@GG1 4877 posted:

More or less correct colors on finished product?

A little demanding there aren't we?  Next your gonna want customer service to answer the phone and emails.

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

Comparatively "easy" things to do that wouldn't likely require new tooling:

- B&O F units in passenger colors (also haven't been made since TMCC)

Could you explain what you mean by B&O passenger colors? Do you mean the more blue that's darker than the powder blue of the postwar F3s?

Somewhat echoing your thoughts, I'd love to see a set of O27 Alco FAs with LC+ 2.0.  I know they made them with LC+ a few years ago, but I never grabbed onto LC+ because it didn't work with TMCC/Legacy or DCS. If in LC+ 2.0, I might grab some.

@raising4daughters posted:

Could you explain what you mean by B&O passenger colors? Do you mean the more blue that's darker than the powder blue of the postwar F3s?

Somewhat echoing your thoughts, I'd love to see a set of O27 Alco FAs with LC+ 2.0.  I know they made them with LC+ a few years ago, but I never grabbed onto LC+ because it didn't work with TMCC/Legacy or DCS. If in LC+ 2.0, I might grab some.

I just refer to it as B&O "passenger" colloquially, to differentiate with the solid blue or sunburst schemes.  I believe the Geeps were painted in this scheme when they were used for passenger and the solid blue when used for freight, but I could be wrong.  A B&O historian would have to correct me on this.

SD70ACu’s in Norfolk southern and CP Heritage!

There was a request for PENN CENTRAL PS-2-CD covered hoppers.

The LionScale PS-2-CD covered hopper is close to some of the ones PC had.

Here is a recent photo of a PENN CENTRAL Pullman-Standard built covered hopper that is now owned by CONRAIL.

https://www.railcarphotos.com/...s.php?PhotoID=118178

That is what can be made in the LionScale O scale line.

Andrew

If the modern High-Cube 60' plug-door boxcars were produced in O scale and S scale, it would be great if the models had opening doors so these box cars could be loaded or unloaded.

Here is an example of TTX TBOX high-cube 60' box car that I photographed.

Andrew

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I was eagerly awaiting for Weaver to make the Canadian National and Santa Fe RoadRailers.

Hopefully these RoadRailers can be made in the LionScale line some day.

Andrew

Forgive me if already repeated, but is there a date when the catalog is planned to be released?

@Alabama Joe posted:

Forgive me if already repeated, but is there a date when the catalog is planned to be released?

I haven't heard an official date but typically late January, early February.

New catalog drops January 22 that is what Ryan said tonight.

I'd also like to add the SP and D&RGW Krauss-Maffei ML4000 Diesel Hydraulic locomotives to my list. I'm a huge fan of interesting and rare engines. The ML4000 is a German design adapted for US railroads. There is one ML4000 restored to operational status at the Niles Canyon Railway in northern California.

@Dylan the Train Man posted:

I'd also like to add the SP and D&RGW Krauss-Maffei ML4000 Diesel Hydraulic locomotives to my list. I'm a huge fan of interesting and rare engines. The ML4000 is a German design adapted for US railroads. There is one ML4000 restored to operational status at the Niles Canyon Railway in northern California.

The restored M-L4000 is a hood units, not like the cab units the D&RGW and SP first bought.

Plus, 3rd Rail is bringing the cab units out.

Rusty

@2012ford posted:

New catalog drops January 22 that is what Ryan said tonight.

Thank you.  

The Traditional O gauge two-tier and/or three-tier auto carriers still have to be made for:

The Milwaukee Road

Burlington Route

Northern Pacific

WABASH

Chicago & North Western

Canadian National CN 1970's

Illinois Central 1955-1966 era Green Diamond logo

SCL Seaboard Coast Line

L&N

Andrew

I like to see lion chief 4-6-0 steamers.

How about a set of the original Metroliners in PRR,Penn Central and Amtrak liveries?

A scale legacy 2-8-0 that isn't harriman or pennsy specific would be great.  I'm thinking something similar to the diecast Baldwin 2-8-0 that weaver had years ago.  Unfortunately atlas got the tooling to that model so it'll probably never resurface

Legacy scale SP&S/NP E1 Northern. Haven't seen these made at all in O scale (did 3rd rail ever do them?)

AC4400CW

Chessie System GP30

PRR M1b

I also want Lionel to make SD75Ms and SD75Is. The SD75M would be a simple modification to the tooling on Lionel's SD70M/SD70MAC body shell with the bulge on the right side. The SD75I could use the SD80MAC/SD90MAC isolated cab.

SD75M Possible liveries:

-ATSF (Warbonnet)

-BNSF (Warbonnet, BNSF/ATSF Patched Warbonnet, H3 Swoosh)

-NS (They purchased 7 from NRE)

SD75I Possible Liveries:

-BNSF (Warbonnet, H3 Swoosh)

-Canadian National

-Ontario Northland

The SD70M, SD70I, SD75I, SD75M could mean making all new injection molds. It is unfortunate that the K-Line by Lionel SD70MAC/SD75M injection molds did not get to stay with the rest of the LIONEL molds when they were moved out of the Sanda Kan or Kader production line.

I might have to buy a Santa Fe SD75M and a CN SD75I if they actually made them.

Andrew

I wish they would add one or two Plug-Doors on each side to their A.A.R. 50' double-door box car, then paint the box cars to represent ones built in the 1960's and 1970's by ACF, Pullman-Standard, and National Steel Car for railroad all over the USA and Canada.

Andrew

The LIONEL F7 A-unit and F7 B-unit diesel-electric locomotives specifically painted for The SOO LINE in the 1950's maroon & yellow scheme and the 1960's red & white scheme.

These F7 models need to have sounds recorded from the existing, operational SOO LINE F7 A-Units.

Andrew

As I just got the new Christmas 2020 blitzen es44, And they are absolutely great under the tree most fun locomotive I’ve gotten in along time with the Santa crew talk, I like the new Christmas light up track for under the tree but I need 48 or maybe 60 inch turns not 36

The Lionel TMCC Phantom (there were four versions) locomotives are so cool. The models look like something from an old sci-fi movie or TV show. They sound like it, too. Lionel should re-release all versions of the engines for their Lionchief Plus 2.0 line with TMCC control, new motors (2 of them), new sounds, and each loco should also include a 4-pack of matching passenger cars. I would get the Phantom III which is silver and black. Maybe the Phantoms could also be made with some new freight equipment 4-packs and add-on freight and/or passenger cars that match the engines, so operators could run either a freight or passenger train with their futuristic locomotive.

I'm hoping to see some 2-6-6-6 Allegheny class Legacy locomotives because I will probably be able to afford one for the first time ever (if I save my pennys and check under the couch) and they're among my favorite locomotives.

Otherwise, I'll look for those small Legacy/Lion Chief steamers.

@Dylan the Train Man posted:

The Lionel TMCC Phantom (there were four versions) locomotives are so cool. The models look like something from an old sci-fi movie or TV show. They sound like it, too. Lionel should re-release all versions of the engines for their Lionchief Plus 2.0 line with TMCC control, new motors (2 of them), new sounds, and each loco should also include a 4-pack of matching passenger cars. I would get the Phantom III which is silver and black. Maybe the Phantoms could also be made with some new freight equipment 4-packs and add-on freight and/or passenger cars that match the engines, so operators could run either a freight or passenger train with their futuristic locomotive.

I really like this idea! Perhaps the Phantom in various road names or colors.

The O scale 8 Door high-cube 86' boxcar in these railroads

GRAND TRUNK WESTERN in the original 1967 blue scheme

GRAND TRUNK WESTERN repainted with the slogan 'the Good Track road' and track graphics between 1976-1985.

NEW YORK CENTRAL

ILLINOIS CENTRAL

ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF

Andrew

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The Greenville Steel Car Co. corrugated gondolas built for Chicago & North Western, Missouri Pacific Lines, and Southern Pacific Lines that are now all owned by the Union Pacific.

These corrugated gondolas have to be made in similar process to the way steel vegetable cans and aluminum sardine cans are produced.

Corrugated gondolas stamped and folded out of actual sheets of metal.

Andrew

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Maybe New Jersey Transit ALP-44 / AEM-7 or the newer ALP-46. Some NJT double-decker passenger cars would be nice too!

Illinois Central 2-10-2, 2-8-0, or 2-8-2 steam

Illinois Central heavyweight passenger cars

21 inch aluminum passenger cars (who has the K-Line tooling?)

Legacy Dreyfuss Hudson

2 rail locomotives

Single motor drive for diesel locomotives similar to HO and N scale mechanisms

2 rail O scale FasTrack

I would like to continue collecting stuff, from when I was a kid. 6464 boxcars, and Aquarium cars. I'm sure Lionel could come up with a few new ones.

@JimJohnson posted:

I would like to continue collecting stuff, from when I was a kid. 6464 boxcars, and Aquarium cars. I'm sure Lionel could come up with a few new ones.

I agree, I would like to see traditional sized 6464 style boxcars besides those with Disney and Star Trek characters. Those kinds of cars have their place but I would like to see other cars too.

Would like to see:

21" UP #2066 Power Car and the 21" UP "Portola" Sleeper Car to finish out the Bush Funeral train consist.

I would love to see scale Tier IV GEVOs and scale P42s and Superliners. Siemens Chargers would be neat too, especially with the illuminated engine room.

I would like to see a Lionmaster Dreyfuss Hudson and an Illinois Central City of New Orleans set in LionChief Plus 2.0

I would love a visoin 844. Makes sense to have the UP trifecta. I could use some B&O steam maybe something other than the EM-1. I love the EM-1 but some smaller B&O steam would be great. 

I’d love to see the NYC Dreyfuss Hudson, as well as some NYC or New England-based rolling stock.

Add-on packs of the Lighted Green Fastrak!

I'll make my annual pitch for Lionel to offer foreign engines, like the Mallard or the Flying Scotsman.  The Scotsman toured America so maybe it could provide a good bridge to future offerings?

I'm a fan of all the interesting new features Lionel has come up with, like swinging bells and cylinder steam.  I really look forward to seeing reciprocating steam on the GS series!

I'd encourage Lionel to continue making products available in O-36 and below.  (And I have encouraged them financially by buying the latest Lionmaster Big Boy, which runs beautifully.)  I have a Lionmaster Challenger with Legacy and I hope Lionel will offer more Lionmaster units that include all the best features, like whistle steam and Legacy control.

One thing I just thought of that Lionel needs to make is a 30' Fastrack track section like Ross makes that includes rails to allow the new TMCC Gantry Cranes to roll on and get their power from. Lionel could also make 10" extensions for the crane track.

@Sean007 posted:

Maybe New Jersey Transit ALP-44 / AEM-7 or the newer ALP-46. Some NJT double-decker passenger cars would be nice too!

And some more beer branded box cars besides Miller or Coors.

New Legacy base only, with built in WiFi.     It's time to release a Android version of the iCab app.   Doesn't need to be called iCab.   Just Lionel Cab3 or Legacy (Lionel) mobile remote.   The App could also control LionChief.   A new all in one app for both iOS and Android platforms for a new all in one Legacy base.

What I'm hoping is in this catalog...

A Morristown & Erie caboose to match the Alco switcher...
Some type of M&E Rolling stock - gondola, boxcar, etc...
A SCALE maintenance-of-way hi-rail vehicle - pick-up truck, utility truck etc...
Fastrack-integrated ROW signals, signal bridges... or bring back the Mainline accessories

The big question for me is, can I afford anything in the new Lionel catalog?  I love looking, but really get frustrated at the cost of items.

An operational  1:48th scale Highway-Rail pick-up truck with actual lights might be interesting.

It would have to work in the Command Environment.

Andrew

For something different I’d like to see a Visionline model of the 2-4-4-2 “Skookum” mallet.

I have the diecast Marklin Class RAm TEE “EDELWEISS” Diesel Powered Railcar set from 2020 and thought of Lionel making a diecast Visionline Acela.

If they can’t do either I’ll settle for a Visionline lighted bumper. 😉

-Ran

@artfull dodger posted:

I have learned to never say Never when it comes to Lionel.  Who would have thought we would see some of the engines they have done thru the years.  I would gamble to say that nothing from the NYC is "off" the table of possible engines as that road name sells well.   The Southern Crescent engines would be my second choice to see from big L.  AD

I hesitate to say Lionel will never make a specific model but brass is the only construction technique that makes sense if you are trying to get the NYC H10 look you are going for with piping details correct. 3rd rail will get the details and look correct look you are looking for. I just hate to see an NYC fan miss out.

Lionel offered a brass hybrid N&W 4-8-2 locomotive but didn't get enough orders to build them. They might have gotten enough orders had 3rd rail not made their similar N&W 4-8-2 earlier.