Lionel Hot Wheels set

Catalogs will be at the dealers in a couple weeks from what we've heard. 

I'm in for the hot Wheels set!   Loved cars before I loved trains!  I will probably get the add on car carrier to hold more cars. This is Charles Ro's price list on the set and the add on cars.

http://charlesro-com.3dcartsto...f/fallpriceguide.pdf

Definitely want one!  Love the orange track, next we need some Flying Colors red, white and blue 70s era track 

I'll put my own hot wheels on the car. Probably a lot cheaper than the extra money it might have been for the set with the extra cars.

What neat memories!  I am a hot wheel aficionado!  I had just about everything! You name it! Thanks for reminding me about them.  They don't make 'em right anymore since they sold 'em to China.  At least they didn't sell 'em the wheel patent evidently.  The way they make 'em now is totally inferior!  I could go on ad nauseum  however there isn't much point here.  Thanks again for mentioning them.

OSD

Myself I will probably get one of the Hot Wheels sets I have collected them for a long time. I did thin out my collection. An had a store selling them at one time

I had them from the late 60's when they first came out to the early 70's. Wish I still had them now! 

theoldsourdough posted:

What neat memories!  I am a hot wheel aficionado!  I had just about everything! You name it! Thanks for reminding me about them.  They don't make 'em right anymore since they sold 'em to China.  At least they didn't sell 'em the wheel patent evidently.  The way they make 'em now is totally inferior!  I could go on ad nauseum  however there isn't much point here.  Thanks again for mentioning them.

OSD

I haven't had any experience with the newer Hot Wheels. Not like the old school Hot Wheels I'm sure. 

I had allot of fun with my hot wheels. However I was more into matchbox cars and their collectable sets. Remember the day I returned from college to find my Mom put them at the curb.  Hopefully somebody got them before the trash man did.

Actually, this set is scheduled to include two exclusive Hot Wheels cars for this set. The details were not finalized yet with the Hot Wheels group as of early August. @MWreck should have more details on this in the coming months if not already.

Thanks for the update Derek! 

Looking at recent traditional line offerings, Lionel has clearly moved heavily into licensed sets and add on cars. Very few traditionally sized products are offered any more. 

I have never been much of a fan of that style (although I have some) but, obviously, Lionel sees this as a profitable strategy going forward.

I have moved entirely to the scale sized products at this point. You really can't mix the two sizes very well, so I am downsizing my collection of traditional cars to make room for the new scale items. 

I imagine many of you are doing likewise. 

Not high on the list but a possibility. Looking at the Gold Polar Express Coach - after 10 years of asking plus its $199 SRP and my cost $145. Finally, no more being held hostage by Ebay sellers. Got 2 for the price of 1 as last seen in the big E. 

Now I will have 4 which will look nice with the engine and coach.

Have any of you Hot Wheel fans run Darda cars from W. Germany? 

They are the same HO size and have roll- back charged motor and really fly on their plastic track.  My grand kids love them.  Way more speed and action than Hot Wheels.  Of coarse they cost more.

Charlie

Choo Choo Charlie posted:

Have any of you Hot Wheel fans run Darda cars from W. Germany? 

They are the same HO size and have roll- back charged motor and really fly on their plastic track.  My grand kids love them.  Way more speed and action than Hot Wheels.  Of coarse they cost more.

Charlie

Yes! I got these for the boys when they were young. They indeed do fly! 

I agree with Dave, HO goes well with the set, but Hot Wheels also ran a line of larger scale cars which were called Grand Toro's.  Most of them were race cars like Porche 917's or Ferrarri  Can/AM type cars like they ran at LeMans and the like.  They even made larger track for 'em but they must not have gone over quite as well on our market anyway, because the run wasn't all that long as I recall.  I had 3 or 4 of 'em and no track.  However, I did discover that if a guy put 2 pieces of the low-sided regular track next to each other, the cars fit just right.  Knowing what I know now that would make the Grand Toro's O gauge.  Just some further info.

OSD

I'm beginin' to think this is the Hot Wheels Forum, but those Darda cars sound like the Hot Wheels Sizzler cars or Johnny Lightning which, when running on their fat tracks or shifter sets ran so fast you couldn't really see clearly what they were doing.  Regular Hot Wheels ran on gravity most of the time and though they were fast and smooth, you could see 'em.  Ok, sorry guys, I think I'm done with this for a bit.

OSD

I'd rather talk about a Lionel product than brand m.

Jushavnfun posted:

I'd rather talk about a Lionel product than brand m.

Maybe next year they will issue a Megatracks set, and clear out the warehouse.

theoldsourdough posted:

I'm beginin' to think this is the Hot Wheels Forum, but those Darda cars sound like the Hot Wheels Sizzler cars or Johnny Lightning which, when running on their fat tracks or shifter sets ran so fast you couldn't really see clearly what they were doing.  Regular Hot Wheels ran on gravity most of the time and though they were fast and smooth, you could see 'em.  Ok, sorry guys, I think I'm done with this for a bit.

OSD

I used to have a ton of Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars they we played with constantly. My cousin had the Sizzlers. They were electric not windup. There was a tiny battery in the car that was charged before each race. The charge in the car only lasted a minute or maybe less.

When you guys mention orange tracks, are you talking the Hot Wheel track or Lionel track? Orange Fastrack?

Most of the Hot Wheels I had we probably more S-scale size that HO. I realized that when I got my first train, an HO scale set and didn't like how big the Hot Wheels looked with it. Probably why they work with the traditional O-gauge size trains.

theoldsourdough posted:

What neat memories!  I am a hot wheel aficionado!  I had just about everything! You name it! Thanks for reminding me about them.  They don't make 'em right anymore since they sold 'em to China.  At least they didn't sell 'em the wheel patent evidently.  The way they make 'em now is totally inferior!  I could go on ad nauseum  however there isn't much point here.  Thanks again for mentioning them.

OSD

Hot Wheels were never 'sold to China'......Mattel invented them and still manufactures them today. I was a Mattel test kid back 1967 and gave my opinion on the HW line before they came to market. I own about 5,000 Hot Wheels and 80% of the sets made between 1967 and 1975. 

Today's 99 cent Hot Wheels do have more plastic than a vintage car did but move up to the $3 line and you get a all metal car with better wheels.  Adjusted for inflation the $1 car in 1967 should cost $7.50 today so the nice $3 car is cheaper, and better, than in 1967. 

More than you ever wanted to know about Hot Wheels.....thx

Well taken, sorry guys.

To keep this train related - Hot Wheels did come out with a nice line of 1/50 scale cars called G Machines. Mostly cars from the 1960s and 1970s. The detail was pretty good and I  bought many of these for less than $3 at 5 Below.

Sean

They also have a handful of Hollywood cars in 1/50, if you like that sort of thing on your layout. I do, so if you cruise my layout you will run into the BTTF DeLorean, the A-Team van, the Mystery Machine, the Flintstone's car as well as a 40s style Batmobile. 

When you guys mention orange tracks, are you talking the Hot Wheel track or Lionel track? Orange Fastrack?

From what I saw online, Lionel made the fastback in Orange color 

Yes. Orange FasTrack, but only for the Hot Wheels anniversary set. It's in the current catalog.

Has anyone picked up one of these sets, they've been out for a bit.

It’s at the LHS. Pretty cool set. Engine has racecar sounds. 

Jushavnfun posted:

Has anyone picked up one of these sets, they've been out for a bit.

I just recently purchased the orange fastrack from this set. Personally, I am waiting for Lionel's "Scooby Doo" RTR set to arrive. But the "hot wheels" crowd should be happy, as stated above, hot rod engine sounds and orange fastrack.

There are 6 straight tracks with the set rather than the usual 4 straights.   40 X 70 instead of the 40 X 60 of most starter sets.  

Track looks great - hoping that LIONEL does some more limited color runs of track.  A multi colors of the rainbow layout would look great.