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Tired? Probably just needs a good service that includes removing the old lubricant from the gearbox, new brushes, cleaning of the armature and such.

Page 13 of the manual discusses the regular maintenance:

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/71-8045-250.pdf

Here is the parts diagram:

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...p;resultsPerPage=250

 I specifically called out the gearbox where parts 103 and 68 come together as dried out grease makes for very poor performance.

Last edited by bmoran4

I'd start with the service mentioned, that's pretty high on the list of ways to get a tired AC motor a new lease on life.  My only complaint with the Timko can motor upgrade is the Mabuchi 3xx motor is fairly small for the job.  I have a couple of the Lionel 6-18006 Reading T-1 4-8-4 locomotives with the can motor upgrade.  They do OK, but I suspect if they had traction tires I could cook the motor.  With no traction tires, the wheels slip before the motor gets overloaded, which is probably a good thing!  OTOH, it's nice to be able to have cruise control, so that part is a winner.

I also have one of the Commodores (18063) which runs sluggishly. In looking at the diagram in the manual referenced above, I see, like mine, the “lubricate with Lionel grease” points to three screws. As I truly am a techno-peasant, before I attempt any service, I have two really dumb questions:

1) I assume that removing the three screws and removing the plate they hold will expose the gears referenced in the parts diagram - is that correct???

2) how do I go about removing any dried up gunk I find???

Thanks.

Last edited by Apples55

I bought one a few years ago sealed along with the rare Black Version. For Both, I took it apart, removed all the old grease with fine mineral spirits. I then oiled all of the bearings and axles. Applied Red n Tacky #2 grease to the shaft area and worm gear. I reassembled the engine. I then had a syringe applicator I bought from amazon, Filled it with Red N Tacky, and applpied it to the underside where the screws are that say "grease". 

Ran the engine a few times to break it in, and it works wonders!!! It can only pull 6 of the scale heavyweights although 10 were made for this engine.

I know a few on here upgraded to the Timko Can Motor and was able to keep the original railsounds by using the existing wiring harness. I have the diagram somewhere on how to do it, but I might just leave both of mine in the original configuration. 

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