Lionel-Ives track clips and other carryover items

i've never come across these but it would look as though the two tabs fit inside the tie and the long part fits inside the adjoining tie...

maybe...

edit! found a link that might help you out!

http://books.google.ca/books?i...how%20to&f=false

Well that probably explains it. It was made to fit 90 degrees from what I was thinking. The old track must have had shorter different ties for it to fit that way. Lionel quit using the Ives name after 1933, I believe. 

Thanks for the info, SteamWolf.

ives hasn't been around for a while...

also, there's another variation that fits cross-ways that lionel came out with later that looks like a flattened tie. personally i just use pliers... it's all gotta come apart when i wash the floor anyhow.

These 80-year-old Lionel-Ives track clips sort-of-almost work for newer O27 track, which has squared-edge ties for the tabs to hook. It's not really a tight fit, but now I see how it would have worked on the different older track. 

it's an "insert post b into slot a" kinda thing...

that's what she said.

These track clips were used as a placeholder for the Ives trademark. Lionel, LLC neglected to do so and a competitor was able to use the Ives trademark.

Techie is correct, and to expand on the subject, 027 track was originally Ives gauge 0 track. Lionel started their gauge 0 line with the familiar 031 track. When Lionel closed down Ives they started using the 027 track and some of the trains designed for Ives (while under their control) as the 027 starter sets, using the "Winner" name. The Winner went away eventually and just became Lionel 027 or Junior. In order to retain control of the Ives name Lionel had to produce something with Ives on it. As techie pointed out Lionel LLC neglected to make the clips and I believe MTH may have control of the name now.

Roland

Thanks guys, that's interesting info. I hadn't realized that O27 started with Ives.

I have this one prewar Lionel car #1690 which was a carry-over from the Ives line. I did repairs on it and adapted it into a battery-power trolley.  

Ives O Gauge track is the same height and profile as Lionel O Gauge track. However, the curvature is 027. I have a pair of Ives switches I have to photograph.