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Hey everyone! New to the forum as a user but been in the hobby since I was a toddler!  

I'm looking to add a Lionel Legacy LionMaster T1 Duplex (6-11207 or 6-38020) to my O gauge roster and I've been eyeing the Lionel website, Ebay, and this forum for one for a long time. I was just wondering what is your take(s) on it on how the engine is? I'm unsure if I want to invest in an older 2003 version or the more recent version since there seems to be not a lot of them out on the market at this time.

Mark

 

 

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I have the Legacy version, 6-11207.  I had one issue which I finally took the bull by the horns and corrected.  One of the forward facing rollers would drop into certain Atlas switches and derail the locomotive.  I finally took that roller off, leaving the remaining two rollers.  Since I was sacrificing some running reliability losing the one roller, I used a one-wire tether to the tender to share those rollers for power.  The locomotive runs fine now, doesn't snag the switches, and with all the rollers supplying power, it never stops on dead track.

I recommend the Legacy version if you buy one, the sounds are better, it has whistle steam, and of course the excellent Legacy Odyssey II speed control.  The older TMCC model had a much less desirable speed control, the sound isn't as good, and of course it doesn't have the whistle steam.

phillyreading posted:

You might want to buy the 6-38020 as it is from 2002 & 2003, price is around $630.00 according to the Greenberg's book for one in good condition. The other one(6-11207) is from 2010 and according to Greenberg's price guide is around $800.00. 

You might find an engine cheaper at a train show or an online vendor.

To follow up on John's remarks, virtually no one uses Greenberg's Guide any more. In many/most cases, it gives values that are way too high for the market. No one knows where they get these values, because empirical observations indicate few people pay those prices. Greenberg's values seemed to start diverging from reality at least a decade or more ago, for some unknown reason.

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