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Q1: Are Lionel's MP54 coaches and combines full scale models or are they "traditional" downsized ones? If they match the size of Sunset's P54's brass offerings they would be full scale models

 

Q2: Were any of the MP54's offered as no-powered add-ons.

 

I'm asking the questions as I wish to build  a scale model of a Huntingdon and Broad Top Mountain RPO.  If the plastic Lionel roof and ends are scale sized a Lional plastic body casting would may provide a good starting point.

 

thanks for any assistance you can provide

Ed Rappe

 

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I can't answer your questions, but there's a photo of the RPO car on this page, which may be of some interest or help to you:

 

http://www.railcitymuseum.com/...road_Top_Mounta.html

 

I lived in Huntingdon for much of my childhood, and spent many hours playing down there at the HBT/PRR station(s).  Unfortunately, the HBT went out of business when I was barely six years old, and I don't think I ever saw any of their trains in action.

 

 

 

Sounds like the Lionel car body is likely full scale length.  When I measured a brass NJCB P54  the length of the body from corner post to corner post was 15 1/4".  The width at the corner was  2 1/2", and the height of the side from base to roof 1 3/4". 

 

P54's and MP54's make ideal O scale models for modest sized layouts as the prototypes were quite short. In this case "traditionally sized" may very well be 1/4" scale sized.  The non-motorized variant (P54's) saw extensive use in steam hauled commuter service out of Pittsburgh and Chicago. 

 

Would the Lionel parts department stock a body shell??

 

Balshis

  The RPO in your link is the very car I'm going to build.  On my railroad I've loosely modeled the HBT interchange with the Pennsy at Huntingdon.  HBT trains #2 and #3 rain daily between Bedford and Huntingdon, PA.  The three car train was powered by a light Baldwin 2-8-0 and trailed a Supplee milk tank car (see photos under the Lionel REA milk tank car post), a former BM62 RPO (same length as a P54), and a converted Brill gas electric combine #27.

 

Appreciate the responses

 

Ed Rappe

Last edited by Keystoned Ed

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