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Looking for members who collect/operate NYC equipment.

 

I like to model NYC engine and rolling stock.  Always looking for prototype photos and plans.

 

NOTE: Custom built under construction: NYC COLLINWOOD COAL TOWER (PROTOTYPE WAS IN CLEVELAND, OHIO - NOW DEMOLISHED)

 

 

NYC CABOOSE 19295

NYC CABOOSE 20133

WILLIAMS GP30 NYC 007

LIONEL NYC OBSERVATION 003

COAL TOWER 001

Williams NYC NW-2 001

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  • Williams NYC NW-2 001
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As I said in answer to your similar PRR posting, I collect and run mostly UP, ATSF, and D&RG stuff, but as with the PRR, you just can't ignore the NYC.  I have a Vision Hudson, and the MTH Premier 999 4-4-0, and maybe four postwar locos that are labeled NYC - I think about every other steamer back then was.  I also have a set of eight MYC/Pullman heavyweight 18" passenger cars.  

 

Frankly, except for the their Hudson, which is perhaps the most iconic and famous "big loco" toy train, and 999 which set famous speed records, NYC was in my opinion most famous as a iconic railroad without a lot of iconic locos, famous for its association with Vanderbilt, and for its named trains like the 20th Century Limited and Empire State Express.  By contrast, while PRR was a major RR player and nealry as famous in its own right, it had just serious kick-butt powerful, iconic locos of very innovative, home design.  So I have more interest and collect more of those.

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We're all New York Italians in the family so I have always been drawn to the railroad. Al Staufer's book "Thoroughbreds" was also a huge turning point in my modelling, after reading that book Hudsons became a major interest. There have actually been a good number of NYC photo threads here in the past several months, here are two I remember off the top of my head:

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...ans-roll-call?page=1

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...19#23392856550905419

Lee - I have to disagree with your assessment that the NYC didn't have any famous locos beyond the Hudson. Of course the Hudson was their bread and butter, and IMO it almost counts as several different locos under one name "umbrella" since there were so many distinctly different classes and streamlining styles. Another signature locomotive with a similar name "umbrella" and multiple unique classes is the Mohawk. Then comes the 999 as you pointed out, but also the very famous Niagaras, which some railroad historians have called the pinnacle of steam power and efficiency. A case could also be made for their K5 Pacific to be included among the famed engines. It was a streamlined K5 that debuted the "Mercury".

I grew up in Syracuse and Albany ny-water level route-ny has no famous engines-Hudson-dreyfuss-Mohawk-Niagara-pacemaker-20th century limited-these names did

not come about for nothing

there is no prettier scenery than the Hudson river route-west point reeks of history-

fantastic military museum-Albany-you can see 2 states from Albany hill-Berkshire mountains-most of all-nyc-with grand central station-haven't had a good nyc bagel or Italian bread since I've been down here-I think the nyc made a name for itself.

Looking toward Mott Haven coach yard in the Bronx. My high school building on the left and our favorite hangout down by the tracks just to the right on Morris Ave. How could I not have become a New York Central fan!

 

 

nyc 003

 

...and run everything Central on my layout:

 

nyc 002

 

...especially the trains that could never make it down to my part of the New York Central empire

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nyc 001

 

Jim

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Lee - few "iconic" NYC locos? Oh. My. Goodness. Really? Do the names Mohawk and Niagara ring any bells? The Niagara was arguably the best steam locomotive ever built

(that is not an opinion that I made up, BTW), and the Mohawk was so good that this

non-Super-Power wheel arrangement (4-8-2) continued to be built into the mid-1940's.

And then there's the Lima NYC H-10 Mikado, predecessor to the Lima B&A (NYC subsidiary) 2-8-4, which gave the "Berkshire" its name.

 

Also, the Cylinder Horsepower of Kiefer's Niagara 4-8-4 was 6600, which slightly exceeded that of the Jabelmann (2nd generation) Challengers, I do believe.

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UPS brought me a J3a Hudson today, just to top it all off.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by D500:

Lee - few "iconic" NYC locos? Oh. My. Goodness. Really? Do the names Mohawk and Niagara ring any bells? . . . .

 

 

I certainly didn't mean to call anyone's baby ugly - not yours or any of the others whose comments after mine roughly say the same thing.  But I will push back quite a bit here. and I don't mean to start an argument.

 

To me - and why is used the word - iconic does not mean famous - it is way beyond famous.  There are dozens - hundreds of famous locos.  It also doesn't mean that someone - even someone who is very intelligent, well schooled, and experience  - said or wrote that it was the best locomotive ever at this or that or whatever.  There are dozens of locomotives that qualify there, too:

 

There are only a small handful of iconic locos - maybe six in my book.  The NYC Hudson is one: I'm not sure why - it was a fast and dependable runner, sure but not that big, not that fast, or that anything really.  It pulled some mighty famous trains though, and it was owned by the iconic eastern RR.  And maybe this had something to do with it, too . . . it was modeled early and often by Lionel and others, which made it a celebrity among locos.  

 

The ATSF Warbonnet F3 is maybe the iconic loco.  The F3 look coupled with the best paint job any loco ever had.  Then there is the Big Boy - just because it was the big boy - again, many have and will write that this or that loco was actually more powerful or rated better by this or that metric, etc., but it is still the Big Boy - and an icon.  Gresley's Mallard - fastest ever officially timed.  No offense to 999, but  . . .  Maybe a couple of others: I'll concede perhaps, probably, the PRR GG1, even though I'm not a fan.  

 

Then there are are near-icons: the N&W J maybe - it certainly is a bit closer to iconic in my thinking than the Niagara, and certainly the Challenger is right at the cusp - I think it would stand in that place had the Big Boy not been made, but given that its just a great loco - an almost Big Boy.  Maybe the Niagara had more HP, but the Challenger weighed a lot more, and in locomotives weight is an important advantage: a Challenger had more weight, more wheels, that equals more traction, and it had all the power it needed.    But it still wasn't quite an icon.  The Niagara, to me, was not quite there either.

 

 

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