FOUND!!! Looking for Weaver Passenger Sharks!!

Alan,

Is it the Weaver brass BP-20 A-B set?  I have the PRR Tuscan 5-Stripe and if I had another set, I would sell it to you.  I bought it new several months ago from an on-line auction site.  I do not know where you might find them but I hope that someone on the forum can help you locate them since they are very nicely done.  I think that Weaver had planned a second run but then cancelled the run, which probably makes them even harder to find, unfortunately.  In any event, they are worth the search.

James

Thanks James for the response.  You are correct, it is the Weaver BP-20 set for which I  am looking.  I had them ordered and did not realize that they had been cancelled until the whole situation developed concerning AMHobbies.  I also had the GGD Congo 12 car set ordered but the price that Bob had quoted was different than agreed upon so I opted to go another route.  Then when there was no followup on the Weaver locomotives,  I found reference to them being cancelled here on the forum.  So....I am on the search to see if there are any out in the market place....

Thanks for anyone's help!!

Alan

Weaver BP 20's  first run.  Maybe one of the largest diesel combinations available.  This is a powered A unit, unpowered B unit.  As the first run developed there was a demand for powered B units, which Weaver produced.  There were also additional powered A units available for an ABA set which would have been at least 4 ft. in length. Edit each unit is almost 20" length.    



IMO a very nice brass model.

Alan,

These are great engines.  I have the green/5-stripe AB powered units, and they are good runners and the A unit sounds great.  I purchased a sound board from Weaver for the B unit, but have not installed it yet.  I looked a long time before I found this engine (bought Weaver's demo), and I have not seen any for sale since.  This is one of those engines that you needed to pre-order to get.  Good luck in your search.

Ron

At the time, I thought I overpaid for the A-B-A set. NOw as I look back, just like the 3rd rail steamers in my collection it was worth it.

I have the 5 stripe DLGE version as shown above.

Come Monday morning I would call Weaver and asked them if they know of a dealer that might have one. Also, asked them which of their dealers ordered them in the first place. Then, you could call these dealers. I would also ask them if they are planning on rerunning these units.

Thanks Jim....I had called once some time back but really didn't ask for a complete list of dealers that ordered them....I will do that.  You wouldn't by any chance have a pair that needs a home???

Thanks,

Alan

Great pictures guys!!  Got any extras??

Thanks,

Alan

Leavingtracks,

No sir I don't. Good luck in the hunt.

Jimmy

Mike, Did Weaver actually produce the powered B units and separate sale A units?  When I asked, I was told that those were to be in the second run that was not produced.  So, it was my understanding that the only thing actually produced was the powered A, unpowered B set.  Is that not correct?

So, it was my understanding that the only thing actually produced was the powered A, unpowered B set.  Is that not correct?

This is not correct. I have an A-B-A and the A units are powered.

I have a powered A and a powered B.  The problem was, just like Lionel, the powered B unit did not have sound.  Many people complained to Weaver about the lack of sound in the B unit, so Weaver provided an option to add sound to it for $100.  When I purchased Weaver's demo set last year, it did not have sound in the B unit but I was able to purchase the optional sound board from them.  Now I just have to find time to install it.

Ron

Alan, When I'm looking for something, I take the 2 magazines and call everyone that has an ad in each one.  I also ask if they know of someone who may have the item.  I usually have had good luck this way.

Thanks guys for the replies. 

JT....I am really trying to be patient!!

Thanks,

Alan

Alan,

Perhaps you could call Weaver and ask them to do another run.  I don't think that there were enough reservations before.  Maybe it would be different now. 

Norm

Thought I would resurrect this to see if any of you might now be able to help!!

Thanks,

Alan

I think that there has always been an unfilled demand for these engines.  I've been looking for a tuscan set before they arrived in the US.  I had pre-ordered them but with the death of the hobby shop owner the order fell threw.  The shop did help me find brunswick units.

I would still like a tucsan set if Weaver would ever re-run them.  I hope that they still have the original tool work and would not have to pay for it again.

Jan

What I posted previously was from the 2009 announcement by Weaver.  Here is what was in the Spring 2010 Weaver catalog from the Weaver web site (the same info and pricing is in the Fall 2010 and subsequent catalogs). It seems that this is what was actually imported by Weaver:

Both Engine Styles Feature:

1/4” Scale Dimensions • Operational On 0-72 Curves

Limited Edition • Brass Body Construction • Authentic Paint Scheme(s)

Constant Voltage Headlight • Constant Voltage Back Up Light

Front & Rear Operating Classification Lights • Precision DC Can Motor • Flywheel Coasting

Your Choice Of 2-Rail Without Sound or Your Choice Of 2-Rail (AC) or 3-Rail With Authentic

RailSounds® and the Industry’s Premier Digital Operating

Control System, TrainMaster® Command Control

BRASS

~Pennsylvania Railroad BP-20~

www.weavermodels.com/page76.html

Additional Features Of The Pennsylvania Railroad BP-20

• Prototypically Correct Style Number Boards Per Paint Scheme •

• 3-Rail w/ Sound Models Also Feature A Electronic Coil Coupler On the Front of the A-Unit &

On the Rear of the B-Unit •

• A/B Combination Unit Includes One Powered A-Unit & One Powered B-Unit •

(2-Rail & 3-Rail With Sound Models Include Sound In The A-Unit, But No Sound In The Powered B-Unit)

• 2-Rail & 3-Rail With Sound Models Are Also Equipped With Engineer On Board™ Speed Control •

Also Available In Brunswick Green 5-Stripe

~Powered A-Unit & Powered B-Unit Set~

G1737 - Tuscan Red 5-Stripe, Powered A Unit & Powered B-Unit

$1275.00 for 2-Rail (AC) & 3-Rail with Sound in A-Unit

$1175.00 for 2-Rail without Sound in A-Unit

(sound in A-Unit Only)

G1738 - Brunswick Green 5-Stripe, Powered A-Unit & Powered B-Unit

$1275.00 for 2-Rail (AC) & 3-Rail with Sound in A-Unit

$1175.00 for 2-Rail without Sound in A-Unit

~Add An A-Unit~

G1739 - Tuscan Red, Powered A-Unit Only

$639.00 for 2-Rail (AC) & 3-Rail with Sound / $589.00 for 2-Rail without sound

G1740 - Brunswick Green Powered A-Unit Only

$639.00 for 2-Rail (AC) & 3-Rail with Sound / $589.00 for 2-Rail without sound

Add me to the list of people keeping an eye out for these. A must for the PenNYC railroad ;-)

I was just offered a set of weathered units in Tuscan.  What does the weathering look like?  Any pictures?

Thanks,

Alan

Did you see last night's Ambrose-Bauer auction?

http://www.ambrosebauer.com/lo...ction=188&lot=55

Wow, those are really nice looking diesels!  Add me to the list of guys looking for them too.

Was that a typo on that auction, maybe was $1,420 for the set?  If so, that makes sense.  If not, then something was not right there.

The $420 was the hammer price.  Final out the door price was just under $530 with the 10% buyer's premium, shipping and PA tax.

I know there were some single powered A units produced.   My Friend bought one from a dealer at the Chicago O Scale show.    The first year they were out, there were 2-3 sets at the show and at least this one single powered A.

Those on the auction referenced above look to have been the weathered versions.  They seem to be less desirable from what I have been told....

Alan

Says who?  Doesn't Weaver weather their stuff themselves?  I kinda like the look of some lightly applied weathering if it is done right.

Not sure about relative desirability but I would be happy with either a weathered or unweathered set of these diesels.

Lula...I really don't care who likes or doesn't like weathering.  In conversation both here on the forum and privately, I have found that many prefer unweathered pieces...thus the POSSIBLE explanation for a lower price.

I will agree, as in the great pieces that SIRT produces..... weathering can be done right and thus enhance the locomotive or piece of rolling stock.

Alan

Agree that the quality of the weathering effect varies. But I thought the subject was these particular models which many came weathered by Weaver and it seems that Weaver would do a pretty good job of weathering their own stuff.

We are talking about realistic scale brass models, not shiny plastic O-27 toys, so I would think that weathering for realism would'nt decrease the collectibility or desirability or whatever somehow.

Lula...the real subject of this thread is trying to locate some for sale.  Debate over weathering could be another thread please....

Alan

Right, and now I am looking for a set too. I hope that there will enough to go around!

Lula...then start your own thread.  Hijacking mine to look for one yourself is not the friendly thing to do....

Odd want sound in a engine which is powered.  If you have an ABA set, it would be protypically "sound" to have those boards in all, including the dummies!