lumber jacks not working

Here's Stan's graphics again.   Looks good Stan.

Stan,  these graphics are perfect i printed this out also for future reference,boy i'm going to owe you guys my heart ,lungs ,& soul by the time i am finished with this project,the sad part for me is ,i don't have much to offer in return for all you are doing for me,hopefully sometime in the future i will be able to give back to you in some way ,shape or form.     Many Thanks,   Jerry  M.

A six pack should get it done.

Sounds good to me John,actually you are not that far from where i live,in Bayonne, N.J.,if i ever have to go in that direction,i could bring a couple of six packs,& a couple of bottles of home made red & white wine ,i still have your address from when you made me one of those black modules with the latest legacy update,so if i am going in your direction i will give you a call ,& drop them off.

                            Jerry M.

Just joking Jerry, a hardy handshake and a thank you is more than sufficient.

If for some reason your project doesn't work out I have a new circuit board in stock. Motor too.

Chuck, Thanks for responding i will certainly keep you in mind.

FYI:
Juts saw this on one of my email I receive and thought I would pass it on. A Voltage regulator module with a adjustable AC/DC Input and a constant 9 vdc out. Also look at the soldering station they offer, Great price and you can get a lot of extra tips/sizes

http://www.mpja.com/05-16-16.asp?r=305508&s=31

Dual output, Mini AC/DC power supply built around the LM317 linear regulator.
Adjustable Output
Input/Output Differential: 40V Max 3VMin
(Input must exceed Output by 3Vmin for operation)
AC Input: 5-30V
DC Input 5-40V
Output Voltage: 1.3-37V Adjustable
Rated Current: 1.5A (50WmaxOutput)
Terminal strips In/Out.
Aux 3 pin Header for +9, +Adj Output & Gnd.
9V Fixed Output
Module has an aux. Fixed 9V Output that shares the input with the adj. portion. In order to utalize this feature the Input must be 10-30VAC 12-30VDC
Output: 9VDC at .5A
Regulation: 4%
L: 2-5/8" W: 1-3/4" H: 1/2” WT: .08

$6.95

Actually Ron, that's huge and also is a heat generator.  It's using a linear regulator, not the switching regulator that the modules previously mentioned use.  It would probably work, but not the ideal choice for this task.

 Quick up date, I received the motor today from lionel what i couldn't believe was the amount of wire comming out of the motor,which was just about 1/2'', i had to use a sodering iron to strip the insulation off, i mean a 1/2'',how cheap can they get? this is going to be fun adding wire to this motor, i know i can do it,but they could have added a couple of more inches,i am waiting for the diode,& the capacitor to come then i can put everything together & hope it works.

The photo in the exploded parts diagram shows wire at least twice as long.   Hard to believe it comes from the factory that way.  Even the motor in your original photo shows much longer motor wires.  Makes me wonder if they clipped the wires on a recycled motor make it look "new". 

Lionel pretty regularly sends out "recycled" parts, so does MTH.  I've gotten parts from both that are clearly not "new".

I can't tell if it is new or not,but it does work,which is more than what i can say for the original motor, it really floored me when i saw how little wire there was, i have enough problems with trying  to keep my hands steady without having to deal with such a small amount of wire, i can see that that i will have to do some miniature surgery to soder wires to this motor ,but i will get it done.

"lumber jacks not working" Have you paid them? Don

scale rail posted:

"lumber jacks not working" Have you paid them? Don

What Union local do they belong to? 

Really surprised that no one has mentioned that his lumberjack has no problems and goes around bragging that "...I'm OK - I sleep all night...I work all day"  

Jim

scale rail posted:

"lumber jacks not working" Have you paid them? Don

They're on break.

Jerry

I'm a lumber jack and I'm okay, I sleep all night, I work all day............................................

Ultimate Lumberjack song.  It's all about the chainsaw solo.

Pete

ps - Chainsaw solo starts ~ 1:35

At last i have all the parts put together,it was easier for me to put everything together outside of the lumber jacks,it was just to tight for me to try & put everything inside,although it would have fit it would have been easier for you experienced guys to do, i will eventually put some kind of cover over the electronics to hide them, now for the part that i don't understand, when i put my meter anywhere on the dc side coming out of the module  i don't get any voltage reading,yet when i turn my meter to ac side i get 12.5 V, the lumberjacks do work ok  ,one thing i forgot to tell you was when i tried to adjust the voltage with the small screw on the module,i turned it to far because i wasn't getting any readings & the screw broke off,but like i said it is working,at least right now it is, so what did i do wrong to cause me to not get any readings on the dc side?

Does your meter properly read a 9V or 1.5V battery in DC mode?  I don't understand how the motor can be working with 0.03V DC!

As for the broken screw on your module, if it is lock-stock-and-barrel broken off the module is obviously no longer adjustable so its output voltage will be at some fixed value.  I would have thought it would go to 0 Volts but who knows.  You could replace the adjustment component (a variable-resistor aka trimpot) but it would be a tedious soldering job - I'd pony up a $1 for another module and be more careful next time!

Stan, I went & checked my meter with the battery hooked up & it reads 9.2 V ,so i rechecked my readings with my meter in DC  mode & it did read 13.3 V, with the unit hooked up to accessory power from the transformer  somehow i was taking the readings in the wrong place the first time,don't ask how i can do that ,i am very good at screwing things up, but i am learning a little at a time, i will order 2 or 3 more modules & re-do the wireing,this way if i make another misstake i will have extras on hand .

Last post on the lumberjack project, I received the new module & hooked it up,i checked the voltage coming out of the module & it reads 8.8 V,the motor is a 9V motor ,but after i broke the adjustment screw on the first module by turning it to far i will just leave it at 8.8 V,i don't think it will do any harm & it is working just fine,& a big THANK YOU to all who helped me with this project.  Jerry  M.