I have a number of these old Marx NYC tin plate tenders. The ones with the plastic Marx couplers are very light weight. The older ones with the metal Marx coupler are heavier, and seem to have a weight inside - most often loose! I have not taken one apart to see whats rattling around in there..... Anyone know? Did the pre war tender have added weight inside for the 333 or what...?
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If you are talking about the "wedge" tender often equipping the #999, (called that
because when viewed from the top the front is wider than the back), there is a loose
flat plate weight in all of them, that I have ever handled. The cast tender often
accompanying the #333 is heavy and doesn't need extra weight. I am not sure about
the plastic tenders with some of the other engines such as the #1829 Hudson...I assume they have some weight built in...never thought about it.
The tender for the 33, as mentioned is cast and too heavy really for the 333.
The wedge tender, the answer is "depends". Sets with 6inch cars usually would not have the weight. Sets with 3/16 scale cars usually would, but a set with only 2 cars and a caboose might not have a weight. The weight is usually 2 steel plates loosely held in by a couple of large bent tabs. Unfortunately a little banging around was all it takes to dislodge them. I recommend a screw, washer and nut. Not aware of any plastic tenders having weights, but there's not much plastic in the garage for me to compare.
Many of the 1829's had extra weights in the front and rear of the boiler, except smokers. Some pre war tin CP's and 897's that came in large 8 wheel sets had extra weights.
Steve
Thank you, guys! So the rule of thumb would be the weighted wedge tender would most likely be found in 3/16 sets with the 999. Did that continue to the be norm with the introduction of the plastic Marx coupler?
In regards to the cast tender, as well as the weighted wedge tender....was the weight supposed to provide some advantage?
Jack
Some of the 3/16th wedge tenders had plastic tilt fork couplers, as did their accompanying 3/16th metal cars, but if you mean the plastic dummy knuckle
couplers, I have only seen those on plastic tenders.
The reason for the weight was most likely to avoid tenders falling over on the sharp 027 curves, as people running 3/16 might be more likely to run heavier trains than their 6" 4-wheel counterparts, i.e. both longer trains and heavier cars.
I have tenders with a metal tilt fork and tenders with the plastic tilt fork coupler. I just figured the metal was an older example. The weight does make sense given the sharper 027 curve.
I took one of these apart today to begin restoring it. Pretty sad ole girl.....It had two weights inside - both had pulled away from the tabs as Steve said. In the process of cleaning the pieces up and putting it back together. Interesting stuff...