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Last month I got a new Legacy Lionel GM&O GP30 (the ones with the correct Alco/AAR trucks...very important) from C. Ro at a pretty decent price. Big moment for me: a new, from-a-dealer diesel (not used, and not steam, from DaBay, my usual route).

It gets here, gets put on the track and...Command is nowhere to be found; comes up in Conventional only. This is not my first rodeo and I check everything I can. Not much to do. I wanted to open it up, but there's that warranty...

Seems to run well, but not what you buy a Legacy loco for. I have TMCC locos, plus a couple of Legacy units. They continued to work fine.

Sent it back (killing part of the "pretty good price"); 3 weeks later I get a call and they can find nothing wrong with it. Sigh...this is why I don't buy new and mess with warranties (it isn't an automobile).

It comes back - and I'm prepared to eventually pull the dead Legacy and put in ERR, one day.

It runs fine; I ran it on my TMCC layout and a friend's Legacy layout.

It's a pre-Christmas miracle! Assuming, that is, that it stays "healed". It wasn't "fixed", after all. Remember, in model railroading, failure is always an option.

So, I wonder if a ride around the block would fix my NIB Atlas NYC F2? Nah - that's from bad gears on one truck. That will take blacksmithing. 

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"You might try the re-programming to restore features. Details in the instruction book that came with the loco."

You can't "re-program" a Command locomotive unless the "Command" works - it did not, as stated, so no access was possible. It fired up only in Conventional/Analog mode.

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If it does it again - off with its head! Shell, that is - and wiggle/press everything in sight. I do suspect the 2000 mile or so trip back to New England "fixed" it. I was partly kidding/partly serious about replacing the Legacy with ERR - only as a last resort, of course.

It's a beautiful loco, but it's already been 8000 actual miles! And not counting the trip from the Mysterious East.

Hello D500.........

If that was me , I would strip out all the Lionel electronics out of the engine (NOT the engine) put it in a blender on high setting and put it in the box and send it to lionel CEO, telling them the problem and let them EAT it !!!   I would also put in an DALLEE or Williams E-unit and put in the engine be done with it at least it will run and not give you future problems.  By the way I am having pot problems with my new 5 year old Z4000 which just acted up 2 days ago.  I think it is something I can well hope to fix at home but not going to spend 50 bucks to ship it back so they MTH can charge me a lot, wont do it.  If I cannot fix it then I will not buy another transformer from MTH but go back to buying MRC's they never gave me any problems as I bought a lot of their H.O. MRC transformers for long time so I trusted them. I have a posted thread here in this forums about this (Z4000 ).

Tiffany

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