MTH 2014 VOL 2 CATALOG UP ON THE WEBSITE

 

In my humble opinion and as a guy who models the Lackawanna/Erie/EL/NYO&W and D&H, I was disappointed.  Not that I shocked, there were three engines of these names I listed, but all ones that have been made.  Nothing ever seems to show up new.  Ah.. Well.. I guess my fleet remains the same. 

 

THe Baldwin is one engine that the DL&W had that could have easily been made with black paint and the LACKAWANNA lettering.

 

and as a fan of MTH it pains me to say this

Another random observation (not a complaint) ...

 

Isn't this one of the "lightest" catalogs in recent years in terms of Canadian offerings?  Not much in the way of either CP or CN?  Where's the pride, eh?  

 

 

Since I barely have any of the trains in this catalog from previous years, I welcome this catalog.

 

The Premier T-1's I welcome greatly, especially the Chessie Steam Special.

 

In RailKing, likely I'll get either of the Transcontinental 4-4-0 sets, most likely the Jupiter one.

 

One thing that does raise an eyebrow is the noticeable $50 increase in pricing their Premier sets, and varying ones in some RailKing sets. This doesn't bother me much since MTH was bound to do it eventually.

That's not a good sign.  They've also changed the wording on their website where the Ives brochure is featured.  At one point, it specifically said new catalogs would ship the week of May 4th.  Now it just says "early May".

 

I can't recall where I read it (either here on the forum or on the MTH website), but at one point I'm almost sure they indicated 4/16 for the LCT catalog.  Maybe they're "pulling a Lionel" on us tinplate enthusiasts.  

 

Oh well, still a few more hours left today before heading out to York tomorrow where I guess we'll get the real scoop. 

 

David

I went on line and the catalog downloaded super quick, maybe MTH bought some more bandwith or Not to many folks were interested???

Nope. N&W did test a F-7 Demonstrator from EMD in 1952, and leased E8s from RF&P and E7s from ACL (both temporarily re-lettered "N&W") in 1958.

 

Early N&W diesels included RS-3s, RS-11s, & GP-9s. Not a pretty face in the bunch. While I'm really not a fan of diesels in general, I do like cab units.

 

Gilly

The N&W E-8's in the new catalog are ex-Wabash units.

 

Stuart

 

No Boston and Maine stuff (except a caboose I am not interested in)

No Maine Central stuff

No Bangor and Aroostook stuff

No Central Vermont stuff

And...wait for it....NO 44 TONNERS!!!!!!

 

NO SALE.

You are correct. The clock stopped on my model railroad at midnight 12/31/59! 

 

Thought I was home free, nothing to order this time! Got through the RailKing section almost unscathed, only a couple of cars I wanted there. Then things took a turn for the worst, got in big trouble in the Premier section. 2 diesels, several 6 car sets and various other stuff. I think the diesels I wanted may have been available in set form with cars also (gotta do more looking), which is a great deal from MTH.

 

Once again, I think there is more I want than my wallet is capable of covering. Haven't added it all up yet, but it's looking really bad from the first look. So, all that on top of the 1 Lionel diesel and 2 Atlas-O diesels I wanted from their respective 2014 catalogs. Now I'm going to have to start trimming the list and I just hate doing that!

 

Once again it appears MTH has been reading my mind about the items I would like to have! How do they do that? They even have a 6 car set of Kansas City Power & Light coal hoppers! Great catalog for items from my chosen road name. I was really hoping to be able to sit this one out and let the old wallet recover a bit, maybe next time...

For me, but not for my wallet, this was a much better catalog than the one from Lionel.   So I'll be adding to my Iowa Interstate collection and I won't be passing on either of the NYC RPO cars.  I may even splurg and order a NYC RS-1.  In my opinion Lionel has shown in their last few catalogs that they have become a "Whale Hunter" and only going after the high end consumer.  Which I am not one of them.

I love the complaints that come with each new catalog.

 

"Its all just remakes"

Yea, because EVERYONE on O Gauge has purchased EVERY item from MTH over the years. 

There are way more people who wait patiently at another crack at a locomotive they missed out on the first time around than people who bought it the first time.

 

"they didn't make it in my road name"

Sorry, you and the two other guys who model that road will just have to make due with decorating your own

 

"there is no new tooling of that one locomotive that one obscure railroad specifically had"

Will you help them sell 500 of them to cover the tooling cost? No, you probably wont even buy one

 

"they don't listen to what the customers want"

I met Mike Wolf a couple of months ago and told him there were multiple proto 2 locomotives i missed the first time around and was hoping to get now with proto 3. well, there are 6 of them in this catalog. Maybe I am the only customer that matters

This one's going to be much easier on my wallet. Only found one, possibly two locomotives that peaked my interest. Nothing in the rolling stock section really interested me.

 

Snooze.

 I can't believe i forgot about the fantasy schemes.

 

I also own mostly Lionel and Atlas rolling stock. They both do blow the doors off of MTH. But in my opinion, Mike makes the best locomotives and for the most part that's all i buy with some exceptions. 

0 EJ&E items...... 

There are a lot of CP Rail, Canadian National, and British Columbia Railway freight cars in both RailKing and Premier.

 

Instead of the original SOO SD60 scheme and went with the Indiana Rail Road SD60 patch over the SOO scheme.

 

Finally there are new road numbers for the Denver & Rio Grande Western 4-Bay, open-top hopper with coal loads. Plus there are 6-Car Sets.

 

The Chicago & North Western SD50 loco appears to be painted in Safety Yellow. Which is a great change of pace from all the traditional yellow SD60s made before now.

 

Andrew

 

Never met anyone from MTH, only ordered some parts a couple times. However, someone up there has got my number, they just keep making more and more in every catalog in my chosen road name. Carnac the Magnificent must work there?

If I was in need of another loco, which I sure do not need, the Railking Great Northern E-6 would be a no brainer.

 

 

Looks like 2014 tinplate here ?

 

http://www.mthtrains.com/sites...ats/2014_tin_v_1.pdf

 

 

Nothing in the O gauge catalog interests me.

BNSF Dash 8 with heritage hoppers will be at the top of our list.   I was holding out for some EJ&E equipment, maybe next year.  Maybe the BN GP30 will be ordered too.  Nick

I agree on that Baldwin  I have everything in Erie/EL/DLW  The Baldwin could be done in the Lackawanna black scheme or the very ignored early EL scheme of Black and yellow.  Atlas did the C424 in that scheme and that's it   Nothing else.   At least we got the Premier F3

Dave, 

I would have thought more Southern Items would have been in this catalog. 

I'm kinda getting tired of waiting for my Highhoods SD40-2 and GP30's!!

Looks like the link the 2014 Tinplate catalog is already gone. Guess we'll just have to wait some more.

  

 

It's an okay catalog and I'm glad MTH did not get too ambitious.  Given all the uncertainty in deliveries that is prudent of them, I think.  

 

So there is not too much I am interested in, except the FEF and maybe one of the UP passenger car sets.  But I am ordering nothing until MTH cleans up its deliveries.  Six months ago I had five pre-orders with Lionel and four with MTH (two from six months before that).  I picked up the last of the Lionel locos - the UP E9 AA set -- this morning.  I have yet to get any of those four MTH locos.  When they can actually deliver at least half of what I have pre-ordered I will think about ordering more . . .

I like the Reading & Northern 4 bay hoppers and the R&N covered hoppers.  I agree with LEE on when is MTH going to deliver these?  It does get frustrating when told they will be in on a certain date then get pushed back.

OH YES they DID!  I have not seen the MTH catalog to look for details but N&W did have blue E8a's from around 1965 to 1970.  The devil is in the detailing/logo.

 

There are four or five pictures in "Norfolk & Western in color Vol 2;1964-1973.  They were probably all EX-Wabash.  But at least some were lettered, logo'ed ,detailed in blue for N&W.

Here's a N&W blue E8:

 

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=90407

 

When MTH starts offering a single premier F3A I'll bite.  Do they think everybody has a large enough layout to run an ABA set?

No must haves, just more colorful cookies.

Can't get the catalog to download in online or pdf form. It's hard with an old computer and only dial up available. If anyone knows of a dealer who posts an excel like list on their website, please post here so that I can find what roads interest me and plug in the cat # on MTH site to get a view. Otherwise by the time MTH send out its catalogs, the preorder date has passed and out of luck. Thanks for helping.

Larry S

I am pretty much a Lionel loyalist and was rapidly perusing through the pages of this catalog just out of curiosity when, lo and behold, the BN coal porters jumped out at me.  I have the Lionel BN coal train set and all their bathtub gondolas so I may just be tempted to add these coal porters to my layout.

 

Rick

 Very disappointing, still nothing for L&N. Hasn't been anything L&N for years. Ever since Mike Wolf made the statement years ago that - there is one unnamed  railroad he would never do anything in it again, I guess L&N was that railroad.

I've been waiting for a NYC or PA RS1 with smoke. Here they both are. VA FM also caught my eye. Seems like Lionel is a little ahead on innovations, especially with steam. Might have to give some thougt to Legacy.

Ed

Hmmmmm. Union Pacific FEF in two tone gray with white/silver stripes....wow I might actually consider buying a steamer from MTH. 

Oh wait....not any offering of a matching premier heavyweight passenger set.  Again. Really?!

Too bad for MTH. Wallet closed.

Haven't felt this way since MTH offered the UP shay last year which I also seriously considered until I realized that....wait for it..... oh that's right...No matching premier Skeleton log car sets. Zero.

Or maybe the MT 4-8-2 in two tone gray with white/silver stripes from a couple of years ago that was cancelled for lack of pre-orders. Gee I don't know..maybe because they didn't offer any matching premier rolling stock or passenger cars.

Rant over. I feel better now. Thanks for listening.

I guess I just saved myself a couple $ grand I'll spend a somewhere else.

The BNSF graphic and paint schemes that are on the ACF Center Flow 3-Bay Hoppers are not fantasy schemes, but they were applied to Greenbrier 5188 cu. ft. capy. 3-bay covered hoppers and a few Trinity Railcar 5160 cu. ft. capy. 3-bay covered hoppers. The Greenbrier 3-bay covered hopper is clearly a different design from the ACF Center Flow 3-bay Covered Hopper. 

 

Nobody makes the Greenbrier 5188 3-bay covered hopper in O Scale, S Scale, and HO Scale, so it would not be huge risk for MTH to produce this extremely modern covered hopper.

 

Andrew 

It's hard to be all things to all people. As an operator and collector of railroads in the NW I have been very pleased with MTH the past few years. They have consistently cataloged Milwaukee Road, Great Northern and Northern Pacific items. I am quite pleased with all of my recent purchases. The only item in this latest catalog that interests me is the GN F3's in the simplified EB scheme introduced in the early 1960's.

 

I am looking forward to something CB&Q so will have to wait until the next catalog.

 

A previous poster is correct in that some of us missed out on previously cataloged PS2 items so are looking forward to the reissues in PS3.

 

Andrew