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I contacted a former forum member who had purchased the scale-wheeled version of the 3463/3464 Hudson MTH did a few years ago and he confirmed that they could negotiate 36" radius (O-72) curves. So I took a leap of faith and bought the scale-wheeled version as part of my move further into 3RS and 2-Rail operation. The locomotive arrived Monday.

 

As a previous review stated, the unit was beautifully done. I agree. The lines and detail are beautifully done.

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This unit features a magnetically-secured coupler door on the pilot. The scale coupler swings out from the conductor's side (the magnet is on the engineer's side.) As with its hi-rail counterpart, a separate hi-rail coupler is included for double-heading, and to my surprise, an electronic hi-rail coupler was included for the tender. Since I'm going to install a Kadee, I won't be using it. It also looks like I can squeeze a modified Kadee into the pilot.

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Another nice feature is the deck plate. Unlike my E4 Hudson, this one is rounded to better accommodate the shorter drawbar (which I will purchase soon.)

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The tender hatches open, some of which reveal the 2-rail/3-rail selector, smoke, volume, and dcc/dcs selector.

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An interesting surprise was the inclusion of curtains on the cab.

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In addition to the sliding vent doors on the roof, the cab windows slide. A nice touch.

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How does it run/sound. Great! It did indeed negotiate the 36" radius (O-72) hidden curve near the trestle without incident. Surprisingly, it was more forgiving of uneven spots on the layout than my scale-wheeled ES44 diesels.

 

 

Summary:

 

The Good:  Full set of flanges, great sound, sharp detail, works on 2-rail and 3-rail "flat-top" track, can make it around 36" radius curves (not curve-replacement turnouts.)

The Bad: Not friendly to less-than-perfect track work

The Ugly: When using the extended start-up sequence, there's a reference to dumping the ash pit and shoving coal around. Problem is that the unit is Oil-Fired.

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Originally Posted by John Pignatelli JR.:

Very nice Matt sound is much better then the Hiawatha I got. One problem I see with it is it is to dang pretty, need to muddy that puppy up a bit Now you need to get some scale passenger cars for it. or did you get the set?

Very nice.

John

Thanks. The sound kinda blew us away. Following ATSF practice, this one will stay clean. I'm looking for passenger cars for it. I want full length streamlined cars. I have a set of heavyweights I could legitimately pull behind it since it also pulled those. The Blue Goose cars are a fantasy scheme (at least from all the data I can find so far,) although they do look good.

Hi Matt ,

Beautiful engine , I always liked it . Unfortunately for me I am addicted to modern diesels.

A side note , soon I will have resin cast , correct Santa Fe fluted passenger cars , and with the ribbed roof . Tinted windows. I have been working on the masters for awhile.

When I get one done I will send you a picture . They are basically for myself .

I do have a 10 car Hi Level with Alco's by Lionel with TMCC 2 railed .

I also have ATSF F units for these cars I am making .So I am A SANTA Fe fan big time , as well as UP and SP

 

Bernie

Originally Posted by Scratchbuilder1-48:

Hi Matt ,

Beautiful engine , I always liked it . Unfortunately for me I am addicted to modern diesels.

A side note , soon I will have resin cast , correct Santa Fe fluted passenger cars , and with the ribbed roof . Tinted windows. I have been working on the masters for awhile.

When I get one done I will send you a picture . They are basically for myself .

I do have a 10 car Hi Level with Alco's by Lionel with TMCC 2 railed .

I also have ATSF F units for these cars I am making .So I am A SANTA Fe fan big time , as well as UP and SP

 

Bernie

Looking forward to the photos. I still have the photos you sent of the open autorack and one of the first 86-foot excess height box cars you built, plus your grain elevator/milling operation. My plan was to build something similar for all the grain hoppers I have. Great work.

Matt...great video!  Love the layout too!  I have the previous version but the lead trucks look more like the traditional black ones with which we are all familiar.  I wonder how difficult it would be to get a set of the scale trucks like yours??.....probably impossible with the MTH parts situation but I would really like to upgrade to those for sure!!

 

Thanks,

Alan

Matt,

 

Thanks for the review, pictures and video.  Very impressive.  I have several questions if you don't mind:

 

1.  What layout was it running on?

 

2.  Were you using MTH's "quillable" whistle feature.  My ears couldn't tell if you were or not.

 

3.  How is the smoke production?

 

4.  I saw on the 2 rail forum that you had plans to run it on your friend's 2 rail layout.  I would greatly appreciate any comments you you might have on that experience.  Maybe it might be better to have a separate posting for this model running on 2 rail DCC.

 

Regards,

Steve

 

 

Very nice engine, I am jealous. That has to be the greatest whistle I have heard ever on an O gauge engine.

 

One thing that bothers me is that when you open the hatches on the tender everything is the same blue. It looks a little odd, but that's an easy fix if ya want to paint the insides.

 

Very nice. Thanks for the video.

Great engine.  I really appreciated the videos.  They gave me a great comparison to my earlier PS2 version.  That whistle is a great improvement.

 

Matt - I hope you will update us when you are able to check out the PS3, DCC, 2 rail capabilities.  I'm VERY interested. 

 

I'm thinking of using PS3 for future upgrades when it becomes available.  It looks as if it will make more sense than TMCC/RS4) because of the limited number of RS4 sound sets offered.  When it does become available, I will have to upgrade my "Goose".  I think you engine sounds great! 

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