Need help identifying a tin tower

CP BOB posted:

I would like any info you might have on this structure. It was made in West Germany. I found no other markings. I want to find another one.

Thanks,

Bob

Bob, that was made by Heinrich Wimmer, Nurenberg Germany, (HWN)  1950's.

Reference and more information,  click  here.  The page is a little slow to load, wait for the photos and scroll down.

david

Thanks David!

Bob

Well now you've piqued my interest too!    Years ago I picked up this loco and 2 lithographed coaches:

The cars have exactly the same "MADE IN WESTERN GERMANY" lettering as your switch tower and the paint on one of them looks very similar too.  But as on your piece there are no other markings.  I did a cosmetic restoration on this loco as it was a complete rust bucket when I bought it.  But the spring is too far gone to run it and when I did try a few test winds the spring just kept breaking.  Also note how small it is compared with the Marx loco behind it.  It's gauged for O but proportionally it's a lot closer to S.

Thanks guys!  I think I finally have a line on who may have made my set!

Becky

Hey Bob, 

I have that tower in rough shape and the station that goes with it.

pennytrains posted:

Well now you've piqued my interest too!    Years ago I picked up this loco and 2 lithographed coaches:

The cars have exactly the same "MADE IN WESTERN GERMANY" lettering as your switch tower and the paint on one of them looks very similar too.  But as on your piece there are no other markings.  I did a cosmetic restoration on this loco as it was a complete rust bucket when I bought it.  But the spring is too far gone to run it and when I did try a few test winds the spring just kept breaking.  Also note how small it is compared with the Marx loco behind it.  It's gauged for O but proportionally it's a lot closer to S.

Thanks guys!  I think I finally have a line on who may have made my set!

Becky

Becky,

The Made in Western Germany lettering was used a lot by different manufacturers. This lettering is an indication the train was made after the first years after WW 2. Before WW2 it would have been Made in Germany and the first years after it would have been Made in US Zone Germany. Your locomotive looks like it came from a set from Beckh http://www.historytoy.com/beck...ug-eisenbahn-zug-set. 

Regards

Fred

pennytrains posted:

Well now you've piqued my interest too!    Years ago I picked up this loco and 2 lithographed coaches:

The cars have exactly the same "MADE IN WESTERN GERMANY" lettering as your switch tower and the paint on one of them looks very similar too.  But as on your piece there are no other markings.  I did a cosmetic restoration on this loco as it was a complete rust bucket when I bought it.  But the spring is too far gone to run it and when I did try a few test winds the spring just kept breaking.  Also note how small it is compared with the Marx loco behind it.  It's gauged for O but proportionally it's a lot closer to S.

Thanks guys!  I think I finally have a line on who may have made my set!

Becky

Becky have you talked to Windupguy? I'll bet he could fix that loco.

sncf231e posted:

Becky,

The Made in Western Germany lettering was used a lot by different manufacturers. This lettering is an indication the train was made after the first years after WW 2. Before WW2 it would have been Made in Germany and the first years after it would have been Made in US Zone Germany. Your locomotive looks like it came from a set from Beckh http://www.historytoy.com/beck...ug-eisenbahn-zug-set. 

Regards

Fred

Those are EXACTLY the coaches I have!  Thanks!    But Styrofoam?  Really?    I didn't think they had that stuff back then.

pennytrains posted:

Those are EXACTLY the coaches I have!  Thanks!    But Styrofoam?  Really?    I didn't think they had that stuff back then.

Beckh ended production in 1973; so this might have been made end of the sixties (which still makes it 50 years old).

Regards

Fred

    I know it's older than its first uses, but "puffed" styrofoam types like that (there are others) came to use in the early 40s. I think one of the first major uses were life saving ring floats for the Navy in 41 or 42.

Where do you guys find all this German stuff do you find at a train shows? I've never seen any of the stuff at the shows so I must be off the internet.

Joe Gozzo

The bay is full of treasures if you know how to seek them out.

Trainlover160 posted:

Where do you guys find all this German stuff do you find at a train shows? I've never seen any of the stuff at the shows so I must be off the internet.

Joe Gozzo

Living in Europe helps

Regards

Fred

cheater! 

Pulled out the Beckh today.

This loco was a complete basket case when I bought it off the bay.  I have the rods but I need to find a way of reinstalling them, and since it doesn't run, I still haven't tried to do it.

Here's my Hornby Meccano set.

And I have 4 prewar Hornby coaches.

I have 3 of the white roof cars.  I modified the red one by switching out the coulper for a Lionel latch.  I often run them with this repainted Marx Commodore Vanderbilt and Lionel tender.

I also have a pair of unidentified gondolas.

I suspect that the one on the left is also a Beckh because of similarities in decoration.  The one on the right was made in Japan and is likely a Sakai.

Anyhow it's fun to watch these little things whirl around the tracks like mad and then get slower.....and slower..............and slower.............................

The 63102 gondola is from a TN/Nomura Northwestern set

 Beckh used the 1271 boxcars but this is the first I have seen of the lower gondolas, although they look identical except for height.

Thanks for the info! 

Wimmer made several other stations. Here are just a few.

B45 Watchman's tower

freight station with crane

passenger station

Here is the same Beckh set sans Styrofoam

And two Beckh stations

I always wondered if this was a logo.  After seeing Beckh set boxes I now know it is.