Need help with my K-Line Diesel and TMCC Cab 1

I would ensure the RS board and the Power Supply for the board are seated fully.  What do the K-line instructions say?  Also there may be a volume pot, ensure it is turned up.   G

If you are not getting diesel sounds, it may be in signal sounds mode. There is a small slide switch somewhere under your engine labled RS/SS. You want RS for Railsounds. Hope that fixes it. Lionel offers a great soundset for E units. If you listen carefully on start up you can hear both diesels crank up.

Neil

BigRedOne:  Sounds like you may have "Kicked" the Sounds - No Sounds switch into the signal sounds only position. That woul;d give you the horn and bell as well as still allow you train control. In some instances, the switch is located near the truck sdieframes and can easily be nudged into the opposite position when handling the loco off the track. Hope that helps, Dennis M.

I was going to add that to my recommendation, but he said when he first started it he had the Sounds, but when he changed direction the sounds stopped.  The signal sounds switch turns off the diesel sounds completely.

Since this is old stock there is a chance it was jostled and something is loose inside.  G

I have the same set...haven't run it in a while...since there are 3 powered units is it possible that his transformer only 100watts is not big enough to power all features of all the units?...maybe just try the first A unit by itself?

Had similar problems with Kline GG1 with Tmcc.  Found out that to start up the engine you need to press eng # AUX1 to wake up.  When you are done running the engine, you need to wait a half minute til diesel sound drop to idle, then press AUX1 5.  This

command shuts down railsounds in correct manner.  Failing to do this is like shutting off the power to your computer without going thru shutdown.  Confuses the programming and will hamper efforts to start the engine next session.  If this happens, you can try AUX1 3.  This command should reset and restart full railsounds.

Thanks for everyone's help.  I read the K-line document again in more detail; and, I missed a part where there is a 9v battery in the A-unit.  The battery plug was wrapped in tape, so that is why I missed it the first time.  I increased the volume on the sound pot; and,  I also found the signal sounds switch and moved it back to RS for Rail Sounds - thx GGG for both recommendations.  I didn't see any loose connections inside the unit; but, I found I have a short in the track that is not noticeable when you run Thomas the Tank Engine, which definitely affects the big e9 three engine machine.  After making those changes and fixing the short, I got some sound, it was great.  I'm going to put it up until I get a bigger and more stable track built.  icfan, I think that the 100watts is barely enough to run the three locomotives; but, it would not handle any more.  My plans are to get a Z4000 and a DCS Control unit to add to my bigger track that I'm planning.  I'm glad that I found this Command Base and Cab 1 unit; because, people are trying to sell them at a premium now.  It works and will work for any old trains that I purchase.  I plan on purchasing MTH locomotives going forward. 

I mainly put up this smaller track to get my 3 yr old introduced to trains with something that he can tear up without me getting too upset.  It was actually a used K-line IC Fast Freight that was not complete and I got it fairly cheap.  The Snap track is crap, though.  

Interesting...I also just bought the same set off "bay and received it yesterday. The instructions don't have any diagrams as to the location of the "switches". I found the program/run switch but not the RS/SS switch. There is a switch just behind one of the fuel tanks that is not labled...the slide part of the switch is recessed...could this be the RS/SS switch???

Can you use a rechargable Nicad battery in place of the alkaline battery.

I'm running my units with a Z-4000 so I haven't experienced any low power problems so far.

Also figured out in order to run in conventional mode, I have to shut off the off the Cab-1 base...maybe because I am running through Lionel TPC 300's.

Lionel trains don't recharge the battery, so you'd still have to remove the battery to charge it, which will be a PITA.

There is a Lionel BCR product that connects to track power and charges it's capacitors, that might be an option, but it's fairly expensive.

Hey Rockyard,

What you are seeing behind the fuel tank is the volume pot looks like a white switch that can be turned with a flat head screwdriver.  The Program / Run switch is under the front side of the rear truck and the SS/ RS switch is under the rear side of the truck.  

Thanks Red...I finally found it.

What I was refering to looked like an opening for a switch...that was probably placed there for someother purpose.

Too bad the other A can't be run independent of the lead A unit.

I had a different K-Line A-B-A set, the Milwaukee Road set.  The trailing locomotives had motors, but no electronics.  You can add electronics and MU them, but if they're the same as mine, they don't have anything to control the motors in the other engines, just bare motors.

Hey Big Red,

Have you trie to remove the weather hatch covers that are over the roof exhaust fans? Apparently they are removable, but seem they are "on" pretty tight.

Gunrunnerjohn...I suppose a person could add some operating electronics from ERR and make the other trailing A unit a stand-alone operational unit. Might have a problem if you wanted to add it in a A-B-A consist.

Those covers are held in place by small plastic tabs. You can remove them but there is a danger of breaking the tabs off. The best way to get them off is from the inside where you can push the tabs out instead of pulling on them.

T have the SP Daylight version with cruise and smoke, interestingly enough this version has a cruise board in each powered A controlled by one R2LC. You could easily add another r2LC board to have 2 independent units. I did need to glue the tires on to keep them from popping off.

Neil

Well, you can run MU with ERR equipped units.  I've run two MU with one having the ERR Cruise Commander M with Lionel TMCC and the other having the ERR Cruise Commander full package, works fine.  If you equipped the lead unit with the ERR Cruise Commander M, you could do it.

I take it that the R2LC is a updated version of the LCRU-2 board? I think it is mentioned in my operators manual that the trailer A and B units are operated from a single reverse unit in the lead A.

That's exactly how the A-B-A that I has was wired.  There was no electronics in the trailing units, so clearly without adding a control package, they couldn't act alone.