Picture is early 60's. That is a 1960 Cadillac.
Art,
Should u plan to have several cars, I would like buy one or two cars from you and for my Central Division Layout (Minnesota and Iowa).
Thanks, I appreciate that. If I get to the point that I can sign up for a 100 car run, I'll only have 98 cars to buy.
Art
Picture is early 60's. That is a 1960 Cadillac.
Thanks, that is a good observation. I'm guessing that car belonged to one of the executives of the company.
Art
Not a lot new, but here is a short update.
Local historical society got back with me and says that they just received a new collection of color slides and one of them was of this car! They said they will pull it and see if they can make me a copy. This is very good news.
Atlas O received my request and sent it to their product research people for study. Nothing solid but at least it was encouraging. They would like more pictures and info, my biggest frustration at present.
Buffalo Creek Graphics was very encouraging. They sound like very nice people to work with so far. 100 car minimum which is also great.
I'm told Lionel's minimum is 500 cars which definitely separates the men from the boys.
I've also sent a request to Walthers and hope to hear from them soon.
If anyone has any luck finding pictures of this car, please let me know. Mill City can you pull another rabbit out of the hat with pictures?
Art
Art, please keep us posted with respect to finding a supplier for these reefers.
Also I think we would all be interested with a model of the packing company.
Art, did you ever find out if Buffalo Creek Graphics paint their own cars or does Weaver do them? If Weaver is doing their painting, I believe if I was you I would go straight to the painter. If Weaver is doing the painting I would call them again.
Jim - My understanding is that Buffalo Creek Graphics does all the artwork and Weaver applies the paint and printing. Thanks, I will follow your suggestion.
Art
I wrote to Weaver again asking if I went with 40 foot wood sided reefers could they help me? And I just received another one sentence reply.
"We are also currently out of Woodside Reefer bodies"
So, I still know nothing about their custom run program or if they are interested in trying to do business with me.
Art
Art,
You might check out the post "MY Blog." over on the 2-Rail SCALE Forum.
I suggest you call them Monday morning and get the facts. Ask to speak to Joe Hayter. Joe is the owner. Explain to Joe your plans. Ask him, how soon it will be before they will have bodies to paint. Also, find out how many you have to buy and what your cost would be. Tell Joe, to look at your picture on the forum. Art, if you have something you could send them that would be great. The cost of your car may be based on how many colors of the paint they use.
Good Afternoon Art,
I was just wondering how you made out with Joe Hayter?
Jim - I had a very talk good with Joe this afternoon and received a lot of good information. He definitely is an option that is worth considering. Thank you for your suggestion.
Art
As a part of my project to obtain my Spencer Packing Co. reefers, I ordered a couple custom run reefers from Buffalo Creek Graphics. I had a two fold purpose. I wanted to see how well they looked and I wanted the two that I had posted the pictures of. These two reefers, a Rath Packing and a Morrell Meats were ones that were seen in the same "meat trains" that my Spencer Packing reefers were in.
I think they look fabulous! Here are a few pictures that I just took of them beside some of my MTH Morrell reefers.
Art
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I think they look very good as well, Art. The graphics are very nicely done.
Alan - I think that is a logo from a Spencer Packing in North Carolina? It is not related to the one I am working on unfortunately. Thanks for the input.
Art
Art, once you decide to do this, I would call the Spencer Packing Co. in North Carolina and ask for permission to use their logo on a reefer. If they say go right ahead, I would call Joe and get a price on a larger order whereby you spilt the order. When in doubt, go for it.
I looked up Spencer Packing on the USPTO website but could not find a Spencer Packing of Iowa logo registered. If you can get the HO car I can scan it and get you a logo you can use.
Actually, that "Baldwin S-2" is an Alco S-2. The S12 and S-2 are two totally different critters.
Andre
Steel or Wood. Plug or Unplugged. Reefer Madness is calling for a Spencer Reefer. See Rich's post re: Weaver.
Today I received another picture of a real Spencer Packing Co. 40' Steel Reefer. It is from the local historical society and is from a color slide that they have in their collection. It shows the logo very well and I can make out the Built Date as 1950.
I have forwarded this picture to the manufacturers in hopes that it will help sway them to produce one.
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I received it as a PDF file and I do not know how to convert it to a picture file format. If anyone can help, it would be appreciated.
Art
Big News! Atlas has my Spencer Packing Co. reefers in their new catalog! And they are making 4 different numbers!
My friends know that I have been trying to get these made for many years. I thought Atlas was interested in making them when Jim Weaver was there. After his death, things just didn't go anywhere. I was on the track to have Buffalo Creek Graphics or Weaver make them as a private run just before Weaver ceased operations. Then I pursued a private run with a hobby shop friend with Atlas. Just before we pulled the trigger on these, MTH decided they might make them.
The Atlas announcement surprises me, but pleases me very much. I know that Atlas will make them 100% prototypically and with highly detailed models.
As long as I have tried to get these made, for me it's right up there with the Cubs winning the World Series.
Thanks, Atlas! And thanks to all my friends that have supported me, encouraged me, and given me good advice during this quest.
Art
If everybody who like them places an order for 4 Refrigerator cars from Atlas O, they will be produced.
Andrew
Art, Yes, saw it and am happy! Going to get 4 of them and run them on my Central Division layout!
Hi Art
I need the 4 cars. What is the Atlas number so I can get into the action.
Tommy
thebeeman posted:Hi Art
I need the 4 cars. What is the Atlas number so I can get into the action.
Tommy
Tommy - I would contact your favorite retailer that sells Atlas products and pre-order them. That's what I am going to do. I don't know if that is necessary for them to make them, but I don't want to take any chances.
Thanks for your support.
Art
Here is the actual page view from the recent catalog.