Needle point wheel sets on old flyer

Well, there is a meter to measure drawbar pull. This could be used to get a more objective reading on how much improvement there really is. I would like to see numbers to compare: an unaltered car, one with replaced wheelsets, one with eyelets and Flyer wheelsets, one with eyelets and replacement wheelsets, one with eyelets and pointy axles and one with eyelets and SHS needle point wheelsets. And if possible, one with Delrin inserted into the eyelets and pointy axles and repeat with SHS needle point wheelsets.

Probably asking too much…

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

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More food for thought. These are from Lionel: https://www.lionelsupport.com/...=bearing&match=0

Does anybody have any updates to offer? 

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

I am going to be with the North Penn S Gaugers at York tomorrow, I will try to get some information.

Francine posted:

I am going to be with the North Penn S Gaugers at York tomorrow, I will try to get some information.

 

What did you find/determine/see/hear?

RoyBoy posted:

Francine posted:

I am going to be with the North Penn S Gaugers at York tomorrow, I will try to get some information.

 Dave from port lines didn't think the bearings would help, unless they were ruined on the car. 

Sorry, I wanted good news too

What did you find/determine/see/hear?

Hi RoyBoy,

I did pick up some very nice Lionel/Flyer scale wheel trucks with hi rail couplers for a great price. They roll really well and that's what I'm looking for. 

I guess the best way is to replace the entire truck and get the new needle point axels and bearings - if you want to pull long trains.

Francine

Francine posted:

Hi RoyBoy,

I did pick up some very nice Lionel/Flyer scale wheel trucks with hi rail couplers for a great price. They roll really well and that's what I'm looking for. 

Francine

Francine,

I’m afraid to ask, but scale wheels with Hi-rail couplers?  I didn’t know Lionel had such an animal…would you tell us more?

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

Tom Stoltz posted:

Francine posted:

Hi RoyBoy,

I did pick up some very nice Lionel/Flyer scale wheel trucks with hi rail couplers for a great price. They roll really well and that's what I'm looking for. 

Francine

Francine,

I’m afraid to ask, but scale wheels with Hi-rail couplers?  I didn’t know Lionel had such an animal…would you tell us more?

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

Sounds like the legendary trucks off the first run of cylindrical hoppers.  (car on the right)

Odds are they're out of gauge.

Rusty

Thanks Rusty.  I was also wondering if Francine is running scale.

Tom Stoltz

Hi Rusty,

Could be, I thought the same thing, but the price was too good to pass up.  Worst case scenario, replace the wheel sets. At North Penn S Gauge we run scale, high rail and flyer.  I did an unscientific experiment and installed one set on a car, then pushed it through a curve and no problems.  I think the problem could arrive at switches (turnouts or what ever you want to call them).

Francine

@Francine posted:

Replacing the old flyer wheel sets with the new needle point type, is it possible?  Will it make the cars roll better?

Thanks

Francine

Francine,

In a word, yes to both questions. There is another thread about this and I will post details and pictures there.

Tom Stoltz

in Maine

https://ogrforum.com/...5#153322190204989775