280 Bridge in C8+ condition. 217 Caboose in C7 condition. 
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Cool caboose. I was lookng at 200 cars today. Better stay away.
Nice
Very nice pair! Looks like you are a Guitar collector too. I like that Aqua Dano 
cool what are you going to run with them?
terry hudon posted:cool what are you going to run with them?
Well, since I have just taken the 'turnout' to the shiny side (from 3RS), I intend on using a 408e to pull my 4 (so far) 200 series freight cars. I'm in the hunt for one currently. I have a near pristine #8 engine, but it is a bit small for the 200 cars.
Very nice. Where did you find them?
bigtruckpete posted:Very nice. Where did you find them?
The caboose was found at a local train swap meet here in NY, and the bridge was found on crack-bay.
Couldn't figure out why the caboose had trucks without the brace bars underneath. But, since there is no hole on the truck for a brace bar, they are correct at least unto themselves. I felt better on the whole after seeing a 'Petruzzo' 217 that recently sold with exactly the same non-braced trucks. Don't know when the changeover to bracing happened, but I am figuring that this caboose is an early one. (I had to tighten the trucks, so I took the roof off. Inside were a bunch of ancient Christmas Tree pine needles. 
There is someone with a 408E (I think) and 3 passenger cars for sale here on the forum. I believe he wants $400 for them, but they are in decent shape.
El Classico posted:There is someone with a 408E (I think) and 3 passenger cars for sale here on the forum. I believe he wants $400 for them, but they are in decent shape.
Yeah I saw that, although it is a 318 engine and set. Very nice though and a decent bargain.
Dreyfuss,
In his new big book on Lionel Standard Gauge, Greenberg says that Lionel started putting the cross brace on the 200 series trucks in 1926, although the earlier model without the cross brace is "occassionally seen later", as stocks of the earlier part were used up.
Your red-with-peacock-roof caboose with the nickel journals, he dates to 1927-29.
So taken together, you could probably think of your caboose as most likely around 1927.
Very nice shape for 89 years old!
david
hojack posted:Dreyfuss,
In his new big book on Lionel Standard Gauge, Greenberg says that Lionel started putting the cross brace on the 200 series trucks in 1926, although the earlier model without the cross brace is "occassionally seen later", as stocks of the earlier part were used up.
Your red-with-peacock-roof caboose with the nickel journals, he dates to 1927-29.
So taken together, you could probably think of your caboose as most likely around 1927.
Very nice shape for 89 years old!
david
Great info, thanks. I need to get that new Greenberg book.
beautiful pieces, congrats.
I'm just curious how a 217 caboose compares in size to a 517. A 517 is a big car. Is a 217 bigger? On a scale comparable to the difference in gondolas, say?
I think the 217 is bigger, although I don't know how much bigger as I don't have a 517 to compare it to. Maybe someone here has both? (Strike that; I'm sure someone here has both.)
hi,the 500 series are smaller that the 200 which are wider,taller ,500 cars look good with #8,10,318,385,1835,the 200 are for the #9,380,390,381,392,400,,,altho the 390 usual are for 500 series cars,,,exception would be the different tender with 200 series wheels ,hope that helps
here is a quick pix I took,,,,the 200 is approx. 1 inch longer that the 500 but as you can see higher also ,hope this helps 
