New York Central's Articulateds - Any Interest in a Model?

Just my opinion, but I would much rather have a SCALE NYC K5 Pacific and/or a SCALE NYC H10a/b 2-8-2.

I like articulated steamers, but not what I want for the NYC. I would have to agree with HW's picks. Rather see a K5 before one of those things.

Not to mention that no manufacturer has EVER offered a SCALE NYC K5 Pacific, nor the H10a/b 2-8-2 either, in 3-Rail.

Jack, I'm assuming you mean a non-streamlined K5? Technically 3rd Rail did offer a K5 but it was the streamlined Mercury.

Absolutely! I wouldn't have one of those "Mercury" models if someone gave me one.

Jack, I'm with you regarding the streamlined Mercury... but Nick likes them!

Personally, I wish Scott Mann would make us NYC fans an NE-2g; what a marvelous, ugly brute of a locomotive.  And look at all of that piping on her, WOW!

If Lionel can take the leap of faith and produce a PRR 0-8-8-0 in Legacy no less, certainly SOMEONE can step up to the plate and make some of us Oval boys happy campers.

Unlike its rival the Pennsy, very few people know that the New York Central had ANY articulated locomotives what-so-ever.  Most everyone knows that the Pennsy had them but not common knowledge with regards to the Central.  Nick was nice enough to provide some pictures for us too (see a copy of the NE-2g below). 

Hey Alex, how about you?  wouldn't you like to have an unusual NYC articulated poking along on that beautiful layout of yours?  I know you have the mountains on your layout; you'd just need a coal or ore drag to put behind one of these beauties!

Whaddaya say Scott?  How many requests or per-orders would it take for you to consider an NYC NE-2g - 50, 100, 200... ???  Give us a number!

Best,

Dave

Looks like a pillbug on rails!

My personal choice is for the NE-2g as well since it was the only "road" articulated on the system. According to Stauffer's descriptions it sounds like they were mainly used on coal runs bound for Lake Erie and back to the mines. Would love to have one putzing along my layout with a sloppy consist of NYC hoppers and gondolas in tow.

As for the Mercury, I never met an NYC streamliner I didn't like. True it's the black sheep of the bunch but it's still classic NYC. I just acquired a set of the matching cars. They will go perfect with my late-life 5344 since the actual locomotive pulled that train until retirement.

An email directly to Scott would work much better.  He doesn't read all these threads.  And the more prepared you are either with reference materials or more importantly potential reservers the better.

That's the entire point of this thread. If there's a strong enough response over time then we can bring it to Scott. If not then oh well, at least it serves to educate on these little known beasts.

I'd buy one of the NYC articulated locos in Legacy or Premier if made by Lionel or MTH - I love the Vision CC2. I'd prefer the 0-6-6-0 just because I already have an 0-8-8-0 in the CC2.  

Looking at the Vision CC2 and the pictures you posted PC9850 of the NU1, I can't see think Lionel would have that much work to do to convert their tooling from the CC2 to make a NYC NU-1.  

The CC2 is one of only two scale articulated locos (the other is the Legacy Mallet) that don't have such excessive boiler stick out.  I run it a lot and its really an impressive loco when on the layout.  An NU1 would be the same, I expect.  

Another vote for the K5. MTH did a USRA Pacific lettered for NYC but I don't believe NYC ever had these. They did have USRA Mikados (H6a) though. H10 would be OK and I would like to see a true NYC 0-6-0. The typical large cabs used make them stand out visually from the usual offerings so far.

Pete

I would definitely be interested in the NE-2g but if 3rd Rail does it I probably would not be able to afford it. At least not this year anyway. Maybe if it was MTH with scale wheels. I also would not mind getting the 0-8-8-0 switcher. I think that would be cool to have on the layout and I always liked that engine.

If 3rd Rail goes for the H10 I might be in for that depending on price and of course that is assuming it is also available in 2 rail with DCC/sound.

About 7 or 8 years ago I saw a scratchbuilt version of (I am guessing it was the NE-2g) at the O scale convention and it was awesome.

Not so sure they were articulated. They were complex, double sets of drivers,  but might not have had the bending frame.  A lot of other smaller locomotives that I would like to see made first. An accurate Heavy Pacific, an accurate F12 ten wheeler, a legacy 0-8-0.

Lionel has released some of their scale 0-8-0s in Legacy.  I have one.   They are quite nice.  But articulated or not, a Legacy 0-6-6-0 would be pretty cool - I'd buy one.

I like articulates no matter the road, so I'd like to have one.  But I'm also in the the tighter a curve it can take the better camp.

Looking at the builders photo's, it's pretty obvoius they were articulated locomotives.

Rusty

If any locomotive is a Mallet, which were compound locomotives, then they are indeed articulated, as all Mallets were articulated.

Just remember the rule of thumb:  All Mallets are articulateds but not all articulateds are Mallets (such as those that are simple instead of compound). 

The Southern Pacific, as an example, converted their early MC-class Mallets to simple so they were no longer Mallets.  Their later AC-class Cab Forwards were all simple (non-compound), so they were not, by design, Mallets.  But the MC- and AC-class locomotives were all articulated nonetheless. 

As an aside, their Cab Forwards were sometimes called "Mountain Mallets" by some of the employees, but this was really a collective nickname as that was applied to both their simple and compound articulated locomotives, but it was never a formal term or name for them.

1. As much as I want a K5 (and I think that the Mercury Pacifics were very good-looking, I have 3rd Rail's, so there), this thread is about NYC articulateds, which is a strange

phrase to say. NYC? Articulateds? Not needed many places.

2. NYC Fan: of course they were articulated; don't be silly - there are books...

3. I built one of the NU-class 0-8-8-0 humpers; Hi-rail accurate, too (take one

RK 2-8-8-2, cut off offending pieces, domes, etc., shorten pilot, add TMCC/e-couplers at

both ends, use AHM 0-8-0 tender, add appropriate details, including cylinder

modifications...the RK 2-8-8-2 is just about the correct size, bulk and shape).

However, I would buy a commercial model, almost certainly - I'd prefer Lionel over

3rd Rail, but I'd take the brass one.

4 - The NYC 2-6-6-2 just screams to be built, preferably by Lionel; the prototype was

quite a bit smaller than the USRA 2-6-6-2, but I believe that the basic driver frames

(tooling) might be employed, with the overall loco being small enough that it could probably handle 042 curves (the USRA won't - but it does do 054), which would open up

a whole new category of buyer. Judicious re-lettering would also add buyers (see

Lionel's nice Harriman 2-8-0 and it's re-dressings). 

5 - Anyway, NYC articulated? Checkbook ready.

So as expected the response is pretty divided thus far. I would definitely like to see a photo of that custom job D500. Perhaps seeing what one actually looks like on a layout will entice more potential buyers.