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Re: Tubular Lionel O-72 switches,

I'd like to hear opinions from those of you who have been down this pike for a while.

I need to add a lot of O-72 switches to a large ( 12 x 32 ) Holiday display layout at a RR Museum.

What are your experiences with the various "eras" of the O-72 switch ?

-Pre-War 711's , which did evolve from the original production, with Constant Voltage plugs, etc.
-Post-War.
-Modern Era 5100 series.
-Current-Day 60000 series.

Opinions of which ones give the best results, aka trains NOT derailing on the points, etc.
Tricks you have used to get the best performance from them.

( I bought a brand-new one a year ago, and did use it for the 2 month duration of the exhibit,
but it was a challenge to get the points bent just right so that the trains would not de-rail going thru the switch.)

 

Thanks in advance.
Steve

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Go with Ross or old PW switches.  The modern Lionel are nothing to talk about.  I purchased many of those when they started making them again and it was a disaster.   K-Line 0-72 are good switches.  If you want to do the job right and keep the trains running, ROSS is the way to go.

 

I am a die hard tubular track user.

Last edited by Marty Fitzhenry
Originally Posted by Reading Steam Guru:

Re: Tubular Lionel O-72 switches,

I'd like to hear opinions from those of you who have been down this pike for a while.

I need to add a lot of O-72 switches to a large ( 12 x 32 ) Holiday display layout at a RR Museum.

What are your experiences with the various "eras" of the O-72 switch ?

-Pre-War 711's , which did evolve from the original production, with Constant Voltage plugs, etc.
-Post-War.
-Modern Era 5100 series.
-Current-Day 60000 series.

Opinions of which ones give the best results, aka trains NOT derailing on the points, etc.
Tricks you have used to get the best performance from them.

( I bought a brand-new one a year ago, and did use it for the 2 month duration of the exhibit,
but it was a challenge to get the points bent just right so that the trains would not de-rail going thru the switch.)

 

Thanks in advance.
Steve

I have 28 modern era O-72 switches of different vintage on my layout. I have never had a problem running diesels or rolling stock through any of them. The only issue is steam and not every steam has a problem, although most will bump through the center frog.

The bumping and rocking of steam engines is caused by fully retracted pick up rollers hitting the rivets that should be recessed (some are not) holding the shiny center to the track base. Sand them down to smooth out the surface. Makes a big improvement.

 

The real problem, the shiny center area on some switches were installed too high on the track. This causes the pick up rollers on some steamers as they pass over that shiny center area of the switch to retract to the limit (not able to retract enough) which then causes the engine itself to rise or lift.  Depending on the engine this action will lift  pilot wheels or trailing trucks and sometimes derail the engine. 

 Joe  

Last edited by JC642
Originally Posted by HOPPY:

Those of you that have the new 'RossPlate' tinplate switches:  How are y'all doing with

them?  I'll be building with Lionel O gauge track, but I'm reluctant to go with Lionel

switches, unless I can get the prewar or postwar ones.

 

     Hoppy

It depends on what you're going to run. Apparently, the Rossplate switches aren't truly tinplate compatible as they don't accommodate the prewar locos with the large drive gear, such as the 263, 265 etc., so they don't work with all O-gauge trains as the advertisement states. I got this info first hand from Steve at RCS.

On my layout I had 4 of the Ross Plate # 4 switches. They worker perfectly on my MTH and Lionel engines, All modern engines.  I used them as crossovers from an inner  loop to an outer loop.  I could run thru them backwards at speed if I wanted. They were really neat.  Matched up EXACTLY to my K-line Super track.(Identical height and shape of Lionel "O" Tubular.)

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