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The ordinary flat car is a simple and versatile type of railroad freight car.  Despite the versatility of the ordinary flat car there have been special uses that have lead to the development of special types of flat cars for carrying certain types of loads.  In this installment of the O Scale Freight Car Guide we will wrap up our study of flat cars by reviewing O scale skeleton, bulkhead end, center beam and heavy duty flat cars. 

 

Skeleton Log Cars

 

Skeleton log car were once used by both logging railroads and common carriers to transport logs to mills. Three rail skeleton log cars present challenges to 2 rail and 3 rail O scale modellers. The lack of a car deck puts over sized flanges out in the open. Lowering a skeleton car onto more prototypical trucks and mounting Kadee couplers can be a challenge.

 

The K-Line 663 skeleton log car is the only model of this type long enough to make it representative of the majority of log cars used in the Pacific Northwest. Add on high steel bunks were also available for those modeling operations from the 1950s to the end of the 20th century. Today this car is available from Williams by Bachmann.

 

 

The Lionel skeleton log car features diecast construction.

 

 

 

 

MTH has typically offered their ABS bodied skeleton in six car sets.

 

 

Bulkhead Flat Cars

 

Bulkhead flat cars became common in the 1960s. By adding bulkheads on each end of a flat car railroads dramatically reduced the hazards to personnel, structures and equipment from shifting lumber, pipe or other loads. We have several models of bulkhead flat cars to chose from in O scale.

 

 

 

The Atlas pulpwood flat car was first produced in the year 2000. This Master line model has a V-shaped sloped deck that is evident when it is unloaded. It's short length makes it a full O scale model than can handle O-27 curves.

 

 

 

 

The Atlas Trainman 62' flat car debuted with high bulkheads in 2011. It weighs in at 23 ounces.  A short bulkhead version was introduced in the second production run.  The three rail version is advertised as requiring O-54 and the two rail versions needs 36 inch minimum radius curves.

 

 

 

 

Lionel offers a version of their diecast PS-4 flatcar with short bulkheads. It weighs 26 ounces with a pipe load.

 

 

 

 

MTH introduced their bulkhead flat car in the 2000 Volume I catalog. They have come with packaged lumber, pipe or track panel loads. They weigh 21 ounces with a simulated lumber load. Recent versions have improved trucks and underframes designed for Kadee coupler mounting and conversion to 2 rail trucks.

 

 

 

Weaver has offered their flat car with bulkhead ends in 2 rail or 3 rail.

 

 

Center Beam Flat Cars

 

Center beam flat cars became common in the 1970s as an ideal car for shipping fork lift loaded lumber. The MTH Center beam flat car first appeared in the 1998 Volume III catalog. Two versions have been produced, one with oval “opera window” openings in the center bean and the other with a truss type center beam. The MTH center beam flat cars have come with lumber or pulpwood loads.  Recent production runs feature updated trucks and underframes with prototypical inboard truck positioning and Kadee mounting pads.  Weight is 22 ounces empty and 36 ounces with a pulpwood load.  Despite their 72 scale foot interior length and 80 feet over the couplers MTH states that they will handle O-42 curves.

 

 

 

Heavy Duty Flat Cars

 

We have several models of multi-trucked heavy duty flat cars available in O scale.

 

The K-Line 693 Diecast 16 Wheel flat car has been continued as a K-Line by Lionel offering.  K-Line offered several different loads including lubber, I beams and booster rocket stages.

 

 

 

K-Line 692 Diecast 16 Wheel Depressed Center has also appeared under the K-Line by Lionel banner.  In addition to ore typical loads at least two road names were offered with a ship propeller load.

 

MTH introduced their 47' Heavy Duty QTTX flat car in the 2003 Volume 2 catalog.  It has come without a load or with everything from heavy equipment to space shuttle SRB segments.

 

 

The MTH 75 foot Depressed Center flat car debuted in the 1998 Volume 2. It comes with a transformer or heavy equipment load.

 

MTH first offered their model of the massive 28 wheel Schnabel car in the 2000 Volume 1 catalog. The Schnabel car has two ends that connect to the transformer load to make a single unit for transport.

 

 

 

 

 

As always, your comments or corrections are most welcome.  And let's see photos of your flat cars.

 

Information on other types of O scale freight cars can be found at the link below.

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...le-freight-car-guide

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure how far back you go, but Lionel produced an I beam flatcar with lumber load. I remember getting mine around the 1998 time frame. As I recall, it came in multiple road names. Could've been during the end of the MPC era.

 

Stewart

 

The Lionel center beam car was a traditional size model.  While one would look big next to a 6464 box car it would be quite undersized next to modern O scale equipment.

 

Matt

 

Thanks for the heads up to Schnabel car operators.  I recall discussions on that some time back.  Does the warning only apply to older cars or across the board for all Schnabels?

 

Bob

 

Thanks for sharing the photos and drawings.  How many of the Atlas cars do you have? 

 

 

Ted, I only have 1 of the Atlas cars, lettered for ACL.  I have a MTH car like it, but removed the bulkhead planking so it's open (like SAL 45622 in my 1st post, 2nd photo).

 

Here's a photo of some woodrack action at Union Camp in Franklin Va with a Franklin & Carolina Whitcomb diesel (not sure what RR the cars are from):

 

 

UNION CAMP photo1

 

The F&C was bought by the ACL, here's the engine in ACL paint:

 

 

FranklinCarolina now ACL 70

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Not to be picky  but the Whitcomb is not in ACL colors . If you notice the top b&w photo shows the same paint scheme as in the color photo. The only thing different is the road name. Do like the photos though .
 
Originally Posted by Bob Delbridge:
Ted, I only have 1 of the Atlas cars, lettered for ACL.  I have a MTH car like it, but removed the bulkhead planking so it's open (like SAL 45622 in my 1st post, 2nd photo).

Here's a photo of some woodrack action at Union Camp in Franklin Va with a Franklin & Carolina Whitcomb diesel (not sure what RR the cars are from):


UNION CAMP photo1

The F&C was bought by the ACL, here's the engine in ACL paint:


FranklinCarolina now ACL 70

Today I picked up one of the Atlas Trainman flat cars decorated in BC Rail as part of a special run for the Public Delivery track.  These are very nicely built  cars with a diecast underframe and injection molded plastic deck, side sills and bulkheads. The trucks have rotating bearing caps (nice in a Trainman car) and the three rail versions have articulating coupler arms.  A single screw secures the tinplate couplers and a conversion to 3RS with Kadees looks very straight forward.

 

The comments in the original post have been updated with the car weight and curve requirements.  This is a good addition to the rolling stock choices for modern era modelers.  

 

You keep posting this stuff and Atlas should have many new customers!

Great looking car to me. Now, I have to buy it! Urrrggg.

 

Joe

 

You should try doing the "research" for this project.  Talk about dangerous to the pocket book! 

 

There are some really nice O scale freight car models out there from Atlas, Lionel, MTH and Weaver that cover from WW I to the modern era.  If modelers can find out what is available, see photos and comments from other operators and decide what fits their desires I think we are all contributing something to the hobby and having a good time along the way. 

 

maybe there will be a new car announcement.

If so then it will be time for an update! 

 

Still pondering what kind of loads to put on them but they track very well and have good weight, even empty.

 

Matt

 

Coming out of BC you could go with packages lumber or utility poles.  Aluminum ingots would be a good load too, especially for a low bulkhead car. Have a look below for views of the Milwaukee car barge service from BC Rail at North Vancouver unloading in Seattle at Pier 27.  Be warned, if you look you may decide you need some Atlas 6507 or MTH 20-93484 box cars to go with them.  Like all the new PS-1s the MTH 20-93508 is a great looking car and they even come in 6 packs!  

 

http://www.mrcd.org/puget_sound_barges.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Ted Hikel:

... Still pondering what kind of loads to put on them but they track very well and have good weight, even empty.

 

Matt

 

Coming out of BC you could go with packages lumber or utility poles.  Aluminum ingots would be a good load too, especially for a low bulkhead car. Have a look below for views of the Milwaukee car barge service from BC Rail at North Vancouver unloading in Seattle at Pier 27.  Be warned, if you look you may decide you need some Atlas 6507 or MTH 20-93484 box cars to go with them.  Like all the new PS-1s the MTH 20-93508 is a great looking car and they even come in 6 packs!  

 

http://www.mrcd.org/puget_sound_barges.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't model the Pacific Northwest, but the BC Rail cars intrigued me as I went to Vancouver, BC a few years back and really enjoyed it. Thought I saw a couple on the BNSF lines up near Seattle. Might add them to the roster just for variety.

 "a nice conversion of what I am guessing is one of the early MTH cars.  Can you tell us or show us more photos of how you modified that car?"

 

  Hi Ted, Yes it's one of the older MTH cars. I chopped off and angled the end of the under frame and moved the bolster to the correct spot then replaced the trucks with Weaver trucks and added Kadee couplers and brass steps and grab irons. The lumber load is the original MTH plastic parts with some added smaller wood stacks along the top. I drilled holes in the cast on winches and the car body so I could add stretchy string load restraining cables. The cables stretch enough to allow the lumber stacks to be removed so the car can run empty. Here's a couple of under construction shots. 

1929

mthlumber

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"I remember that conversion. I think you did an article in O Scale News. Liked it so much I bought a couple of the cars to convert over. Did you notch the end sill for the coupler?"

 

  Hi Matt, I don't recall positing it in O scale news, but I've seen other folks articles on conversion of these cars in the past. Looking at my photo a couple of posts up above it appears I used the original MTH end of frame molding and chopped it off and mounted Kadees on it? I recall cutting and beveling the under frame to allow me to mount the trucks in the correct position( aligned with the molded on jacking pads.)  I can't give a better answer since I don't have the car any more as I've been selling off my O stuff as I transition to S scale in anticipation of a move to a smaller house and train room.....Regards  DaveB  

Daveb and Scratchbuilder

 

Thanks for posting the photos of your beautiful work.  I love the utility pole load.  plenty of those originate in the pacific northwest.

 

I received the MTH 20-98849 for my birthday.  What a monster!  Fortunately MTH has improved the underframe with correctly placed trucks and Kadee mounting pads.  I hope that MTH will update the catalog illustrations to reflect their current products.

 

Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Originally Posted by daveb:

MTH centerbeam cars can be converted to a useful 2 rail car....DaveB

2092

I remember that conversion. I think you did an article in O Scale News. Liked it so much I bought a couple of the cars to convert over. Did you notch the end sill for the coupler?

That is a premier correct?

Originally Posted by Bob Delbridge:
Originally Posted by mwb:

Quality Craft kit car

 

Martin, Any idea what the prototype RR was for this car?  I'm finally getting around to adding decals to it.  Seaboard had some like it or very similar, but I'm looking to do another RR name.

Seem to recall that they were a PRR prototype when assembled w/o the the stake pockets castings.

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