Old New York

Wow  Great pictures Larry

Very cool pictures

Here are some new pictures of some remaining RR things in NY that get a lot less attention because they are off the tourist map. As far as I know there is only one preserved engine in all of Manhattan. This ex B.E.D.T. S2 that is disguised as a NYC engine in Riverside Park. It is near the old NYC 69st car float bridge ruins.

 

 

I can't see the Subway in this web site (it's underground), but who knew there was a Battleship in Union Square.

 

http://mashable.com/2015/04/30...ruit/?utm_cid=lf-toc

 

There is a Subway stop for it though in case you're mad at me.

 

 

1888 Blizzard in NYC: Trolley Snow Sweeper in Action?

Fourth picture down.

 

http://mashable.com/2015/01/27...zard/?utm_cid=lf-toc

 

 

Very interesting, thanks.

Don

Those are some very clean photos for 1888! Interesting as well.

Don

Wow, great pics, thanks for posting these.

 

Richie

Wow. How cool is that ship.  Amazing

This is a real history lesson. Figure out an app and sell it to the schools system. Great stuff.

I had heard of that before, and I think I might have a guess as to what happened. A friend of mine grew up in Coney Island, on the site of what had been Luna Park and she loved the history of Coney Island. She had told me the story about the battleship, and she told me that the ship had been shipped to Coney Island and was stored at Luna Park, and burned when the rest of the park burned in the early 1920's. I obviously have no way of knowing if that was in fact what happened, but she was pretty knowledgeable about things so it kind of makes sense.Note I am not talking the fire that destroyed Luna Park in 1944, fires were common at Coney Island and Luna Park had several in its history according to my friend. 

Here are a couple from the 1960;s

 

Worlds fair trains and Broad Channel crossing

 

 

 

Very cool

I used to ride those Worlds Fair subway (7)  trains when playing hooky from John Jay High School in Brooklyn.   The bigger treat was seeing the old NY Titans practicing at Shea Stadium just before the train stopped at the Worlds Fair.  Once at the Fair could never understand the dinosaurs.  They really looked fake.

 I thought the Titans only played in the Polo grounds ?

  Ben do you know the location of that #7 shot ?

I Think the Titans were the Jets by the time they arrived at Shea Stadium.

 

Bens Long Island RR shot is at the Worlds Fair Shea stadium station on the Port Washington line.The station was built origina;;y for the 1939-40 Worlds Fair and redone for the 1964-65 version. In 1939 DD-1s hauled PRR trains from Pennsylvania station to this station. The Trailblazer was a name train that arrived here in those days.

 

This photo is from the 60s. The IRT Willets point  yard is to the right in the photo. The LIRR train is a Port Washington line electric. The car at the end we see is one of LIRRs original double deckers . This is likely a westbound train

 

Just to the east of this location was the junction with the branch that went up to Whitestone. It had been electrified but was discontiued about 1932. Part of the branch renaibed for a number of years to serve a small LIRR yard along the Flushing creek. I recall seeing old LIRR cars that were being scrapped here.

 

The LIRR station is still here tpday. M-7 equipment is now seen here.

 

Not sure about the timing of the Subway shot at Broad Channel but those R=10s look like they have been repainted into the greeb scheme they wore near the end of their service. 

Thanks for the info LIRR Steamer.

 LETS GO METS !

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...ir/lirrworldfair.htm LIRR World's Fair webpage

I stand corrected, the Titans were the Jets in 1964.  I remember the green and white uniforms of the Jets vs. the Gold and Blue of the Titans.  Anyway, I really enjoyed the photo's of the Fair in NYandW's link.  Brought back a lot of pleasant memories.

I really like this thread it brings back many memories. I remember the 50s taking the d train to the Franklin Ave trolley (I believe) to McLaren pool. I also remember 1964. I would take the A train to the Lex to the Flushing Line to the Fair. I performed at the NYS Pavilion with the Brooklyn Central YMCA gymnastics team. John Jay on 4th St and 7th Ave was my HS (it is no longer there).

 

Jay

Class of '64

Jay

 

It may have been the B-48 Lorimer street Trolley Bus . I ran from down around the Ebbets field Eastern Parkway area up into Greenpoint where the pool was. The ride to the Fair on the Flushing line was fun . The cars blue and white were attractive and had those picture windows. Nice Memories.

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Wooops

 

 

I was out in Sunset Park Brooklyn last week and got these pictures near the new Bush Terminal Park

Silver Lake

I grew up in the Sunset Park area and remember when those tracks were bustling with activity.  From the Subway yard at 36 st to Bush Terminal and the Army terminal there were tons of trains to see.

 

 

Anybody want to take a stab at where this is?

 

 

Fort Wadsworth.

 

What do I win?

Huh, Ft Wadsworth is on Staten Island.

And Staten Island is still part of NYC, contrary to most news outlets' opinion.

That's Ft Wadsorth alright  Those rails were used to move heavy ammunition to the artillery pieces on the parapets.    

One of the photos shows the wreck on the old nineth avenue elevated at 53rd street and nineth avenue. Fort Wadsworht had two railroads. A three foot gauge that connected wiith the B & O South Beach line and the narrow gauge tracks from the bunkers to the guns for ammunition (shown) near the waterfront.

Ben wrote:  

 

That's Ft Wadsworth alright  Those rails were used to move heavy ammunition to the artillery pieces on the parapets

 

 

As an aside....General James Wadsworth was a New Yorker and a general in the Union Army during the Civil War. He was killed leading his division in the Wilderness in May, 1864. A year earlier, at Gettysburg his division had successfully defended the railroad cut on Seminary Ridge during the 1st day of the battle (see, railroad-related!).

 

He is honored by an inscription on the wall of Memorial Hall on the grounds of Harvard, as are all Harvard grads who fell in battle in the Civil War. I found his name on the wall by accident some years ago when I was looking for the name of Colonel Strong Vincent (who perished on Little Round Top).

 

Peter

I was out on Governors Island a few weeks ago and foound this Arch bar truck in a construction zone. Governors Island has been a military installation since the 1600's about ten years ago it became a city park and there has been some reworking of it to open Museums, art shows and such. Apparently the island had been about half of its current size but it was expanded with fill from subway tunneling and the Battery tunnel. Anyway although they never had a railroad on the island somehow this damaged truck ended up in the fill. Interesting conversation piece.

It has been a half baked pipe dream of mine to gather some fellow NYC based space challenged three railers to take one of these old buildings and start a layout like the group that has the museum at Balboa Park in San Diego, CA. 

 

According to the Forgotten NY website

Surprisingly, at one time, Governors Island had its very own railroad. The G.I.R.R. was only 1-3/4 miles long (the shortest railroad line in the world), but it was completely equipped with 3 cars and an engine. It was one of the smallest railroads in the world. This picture is from 1917. There are no traces of the railroad on the Island today. It was scrapped in 1931

In 1918, the Army built the Governors Island Railroad, which consisted of 1-¾ miles of track and three flat cars carrying coal, machinery, and supplies from the pier to shops and warehouses.

That would make an interesting train to model.  Methinks.

SI Memories...

 

 

Pleasant Plains?

 

       
       

Interesting. Maybe the old truck is the one remnant of the G.I.R.R.  The engine with spark arrester stack looks like a Lionel MPC docksider. Cool

So how about a Governors Island boxcar, Atlas, MTH, Lionel ?

I am looking for a track diagram of High Bridge during electrification when there was a turntable to turn the steam locomotives and Electric power was put on to run into Grand Central before Harmon became the change point.

1977

When can we buy one of these?

 

 

Steve

 

That's an interesting photo of the LIRR MP-15. It looks so new , maybe its first day out. It is coming off the spur from the Port Washington Branch that went up to the Willets point yard where some obsolete equipment and cars were scrapped.  This track was the original tight of way for the Whitestone Branch which was closed in 1932. That Branch was actually electrified when it was closed. The R-36s are still in their original Worlds fair colors but with graffiti added. I would say the pic is about 1976.

 

Be nice to have one in LIRR paint