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Hey guys. I am asking for your opinion regarding my water feature and if you like my water color or not. I followed my past experiences and painted my body of water flat black with my soil color around the perimeter and "feathered" out into the abyss with my airbrush.

Before pouring the acrylic, I thought it looked pretty good.

Now, with the EnviroTex cured, I do not like it. I think it is too dark....especially for the surrounding scenery and size of the water feature. It is too small for such a dark color to represent depth. My layout is suppose to represent the Wyoming / Colorado area. So I went with a lot of tans, etc for the scenery basics and the basic black water does not compliment. It does provide excellent reflections of the surrounding area which is good but that only works at certain angles. The layout at the water level is around 37" high so most of the time you are looking down on top of it.

My gut tells me to scuff the surface, redo the banks and paint it over with a lighter green / brownish color. Then pour another 1/8" thickness of Envirotex over the top.

My wife thinks I am crazy. I am waiting for it to grow on me.

Opinons?

Thanks.

Donald

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There are black water lakes/ponds in nature, born mostly from the reflections they display, but not the usual in our modeling.  I agree it might look nicer in traditional blue/green tints.  Especially in your layout scenario.  It might tone down some if you were to put in wind ripples, instead of the glass smooth finish you have achieved.

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Last edited by TedW

Go with what makes you really happy. If you are unsure enough to ask about it here, then my impression is you are not going to get more enamored of it as time goes forward; rather, you are going to like it less.

BTW, the pictures TEDW provided give a valuable perspective and were helpful in my letting myself voice an opinion here, because I have never seen such black-looking water in real-life. So, perhaps the redo you suggest might be the best route to take, for you.

These photos show water I have modeled,IMG_4991IMG_4997mm more as effluence than standing water, the color(s) of which might be more along the lines of what you indicated you intended to have modeled. IMG_5138

Also, this scene with the transients by a pondIMG_4917 is the darkest I have ever let myself model, more to indicate a mood or atmosphere, than any particular depth.

I hope this is helpful.

FrankM

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Donald:

Your layout looks great! Amazing attention to detail!

In my opinion your water is too dark. But if that's the effect you want then it is entirely up to you. That's the beauty of what we do with our layouts.

I like to use the description: "Three Dimensional Art In Motion With Sound ©" for what we do with our train layouts.

Here's what I did with a small water effect on my layout:

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it really depends on the context! trying shining a light on the white ceiling directly above that part of your layout. You might get more reflections than what you've got right now and I bet if you painted your ceiling blue in that area it would reflect that as well. could work as a stop gap for now and if you decide to re-do the whole thing thats always an option.

you can see on this image its already doing this a little where it reflects the blue backdrop.

Do what makes you comfortable. It looks very deep like it drops off very close to shore - nothing wrong with that if you like it. Otherwise re-do with just a slight bluish-green tint. Slight because most of the water I've seen on this site is way too blue! Water is generally black as you move away from the shore. I happen to live in a county with 44 lakes and innumerable creeks and streams. In the final analysis do what makes you comfortable.

Hello----NO OFFENSE---but it kinda resembles a Wyoming oil sump!  Sighhh--if the rest of the scenery wasn't so well crafted, the water would pass.  Water  appearing that dark might occur at dusk, but the rest of the scenery looks like its a sunny day.

Redo it! You have to live with it!  Brighten it up.  Good crafting often involves REcrafting!  Sometimes over and over!  -Salty Rails-

Gentlemen.

Thank you all for your time to respond. I appreciate your comments. You gave me a lot to think about.

FrankM was right, I asked the question because I really did not care for the final result. However, I will try some of the suggestions, like ATANZ suggested with lighting, etc.

For now, it is only 2 days old. I will stare at it for awhile, maybe add some more vegetation and see if it grows on me. After all, I have another 700 square feet of scenery to complete so I have other projects to do!

I can always revisit this area. The biggest disadvantage of waiting too long is that I need to install that Atlas "high bridge" across the upper level to run some trains. That is out in the shop for assembly and paint. Once that is installed, it becomes a lot tougher to work in that space under the long 40" span.

Thanks again.

Donald

Looks good in and of itself BUT, since there's no shadow reflection of anything dark around the perimeter, you do have to wonder why it's so dark since, as mentioned above, water color is a reflection of surrounding scenery and/or sky. One suggestion might be to do a sample of the same color off the layout (e.g. in a shallow pan) and then try some coloring to lighten it and see what the comparison looks like. It might give you some practice regarding what color you'd like it to be before you do the real thing. Or, you might just decide to leave it as is. 

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