PECOS RIVER BRASS CEMENT PLANT

chris: i think john from the former prb has some buildings on the ebay right now.some of his leftover factory stock is listed on there .

  when you say cement plant ,are you talking a plant that grinds and heats limestone into a cement powder,or the plant that loads material into a ready mix concrete truck?big difference. the latter is called by those in the industry as a concrete batch plant. ive seen both labeled cement plants in building kits for h o gauge.

  both are commonly served by rail ,so its a good industry to model.i have thought about making a plant from parts of a grain elevator,or coal mine tipple.

   chris, i take it you will be at the dalton,oh show this sunday,. its turned into the premier show in the northern ohio area [my opinion] i dont think i can get there this time.-jim

John, thanks for the tip!  By the way do you know how I can get a hold of him?  I thought everything was long gone?  Saw one on ebay, for $900.  A little out of my price range.   That is why I am looking for plans.  I like to make it out of plastruct if possible.  I have a few photos of it from a railroad modeler Magazine. 

 

Mixerman, good to hear from you!  I agree that Dalton is the best.  I will be there, hope you can make it.  If you do, I will show you what I am looking to build.   The plant would be a batch plant making ready mix.  I will be with the Massillon o gauge club.

 

Chris

This may not be what you are looking for? I made this out of plastic pipe, styrene,  plastic rain gutter tube and HO coal mine conveyer. Also the pit is a kid's sand box toy.

You would need to make the tower that the concrete trucks drive under taller and wider.

I think every plant is made different. You can built it for less than $900

 

Here is my "some kind of" cement plant. Still a work in process. I combined a Korber silo kit and a built kit I got off the bay.

 

 

Chris:

If you are talking about a cement kiln where the actual powder is made then transported to concrete plants then see below. It is a small model due to limited customer space but contains the necessary structures (smoke stack, preheat tower, rotary kiln, klink house and cement storage structure).

Joe

 

 

 

 

Ok, lets get our terminology correct first. I have worked for 25 years in the cement and construction materials industry, so let me explain something here.

This post has, so far, talked about 3 related, but totally differedn types of facilities.

1. Cement plant: Cement is the powder that makes redi mix concrete set up hard. Cement is manufactured in a "cement plant", by burning limestone in a kiln, along with a few other ingredients. After being burned in the liln, the mix becomes 'clinker". Clinker is kind of like large rocks and rubble, and, is not reactive when stored out in the weather/rain. The cement plant grinds the clinker into a fine powder, sometimes with a few additives, and this dry powder is then called Portland Cement. A cement plant is a very large facility the usually has a limestone mine adjacent to it.

 

2. Cement distribution facility: PRB did a brass model of the  Tilbury Cement facility. This is a "cement distribution facility", where cement was brought in by rail, stored, then shipped out by truck. It received bagged cement in boxcars, and bulk cement in covered hoppers.

 

3. Redi mix concrete plant: This is a plant the takes powdered cement, sand, and gravel, and mixes it all with water to make redi mix "concrete". Some plants mix it onsite, then load it into the mixer trucks for delivery. Other plants dump the dry ingrediants and water into the mixer trucks, and the trucks do the mixing.

 

 I am a friend of John's, and used to model with him, and work for him now and then,  at PRB. I don't think he has any of those plants left. They are really a beautiful model. You can email him and see if he might still have one, but I doubt it.

His email is  john@pecosriverbrass.com

 I have one of those Tilbury plants in the original shipping box, and have thought about selling it. Just do not have room to use it right now. But not sure, as I could never replace it if I wanted one in the future.

 There was a plan published for the Tilbury plant in a Model Railroader mag. many years ago. Also, MR or RMC published plans for a redi mix concrete plant. I have both in my files. If I can find them, I will post here later, what issues those two plans appear in.

Jeff

Here is the info on where to find drawings and info on the Tilbury Terminal and a ready mix concrete plant.

Tilbury Cement Co.: RMC, April 1996 issue. Article and scale drawings

Concrete Batch Plant: RMC, Nov. 1980 issue. Scale drawings, photos, and "how-to- build" info.

Jeff

CCN, Joe, Jeff,

 

I apologize for not getting back with everyone. I had to work my 24 tour yesterday so no access to the internet,  All are great examples.  Jeff #3 is what I want to model.  PRB Tilbury plant seems to have those qualities.  I looked on the PRB website and there are no structures left.   So plans are what I am looking for.  Thank you for the references.  I hope I can find them.  My other problem is finding a local dealer with plastruct and a huge variety of pieces.  Most hobby stores around here have a small display.  I hate to order a lot and have the wrong stuff.  Also, pardon my ignorance abbreciation (RMC)?  Thank you for the time.

 

Chris

Chris,

 RMC = Railroad Model Craftsman magazine.

 I usually can locate back issues I need on Ebay, but I am sure there are other sources. Some members here probably have old issues they can make copies from.

 Good luck with your project.

Jeff

Here are some shots of the PRB Cement Distrib Facility on Donald Smith's layout:

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1002%20(26).jpg

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1006%20(17).jpg

 

 

http://industrialmodels.rrpict...ictures/49925/908%20(11).jpg

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1009%20(9).jpg

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1112%20(16).JPG

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1140%20(17).JPG

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1162%20(1).JPG

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ctures/49925/1072%20(31).JPG

Hey Mark,

 

Only the third pic. came threw.  It might be my windows vista or just not updating my browser.  What he has is on Target!

 

thanks,

 

Chris

I cannot locate the 1980 on ebay; if anyone has a copy, please let me know!

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

Here are some Walthers HO kits to give you an idea on appearance.

 

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3019

 

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3098

Anyone know of a good model of a smokestack other than the Altoona version?    I like the tapered walthers version..

 

Thx

Harry Hieke sells large brick smokestacks

Does he have a website per chance? Thank you