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I’ve been having a problem with one particular engine on my Christmas layout that’s been bugging me. The TMCC operated Lionmaster “Big Boy” has occasional spurts where it goes from TMCC then flipping to conventional control. Of course, when that happens, the loco picks up the full voltage from the track and shoots down the track at full speed. Fortunately by the time it gets to the curve, it reverts back to TMCC and avoids a derailment.

It is an annoying problem and one I mentioned to someone in our local Atlanta train club. This club member, who is our electronic wizard, said that if you have parallel tracks, the TMCC signal can become “out of phase” I believe, causing the train to go into conventional mode. Well, I have 8 TRACKS PARALLEL for about 5 feet in my living room Christmas layout. I obviously can’t change the layout at this point.

So I’m looking at the consist being pulled by the “Big Boy” and notice that there are two all metal cars in the train, a scale coal hopper and a bulk carrier. The rest of the consist is mostly plastic cars. I took the two all-metal cars off the consist and VOILA, the problem went away.

Someone can probably explain why this occurred as I’m not electrically gifted, but I think the all-metal cars somehow amplified the interference caused by the parallel tracks. The problem is only with the ALL-METAL shell “Big Boy” engine, which when added to the metal cars, creates this problem.

Anyway, I thought this was interesting....
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I have had similar problems with my SD90 CP Rail Lionmaster with TMCC. When I first bought the engine it did this several times. When I took it back to Catoctin Mountain Trains they reset the engine and it worked fine again. This problem has been an off and on situation since then.

I run mostly plastic cars on the consist but the track is parallel to other tracks so maybe that has something to do with it but it hasn't happened in awhile so it's a mystery to me.

Steve Tapper
Look on Lionels web site and there is a video about TMCC that explains all about the problem and what to do about it. The video was in a thread here last week. You can probably do a search and find that. It was a very good video and well worth watching.

I found it for you. Click on the link below. A very good video really worth watching.

http://www.lionel.com/customer....cfm?documentid=6355
Last edited by pgbsr

I am going to give this a try. But to show my electrical knowledge. I think , I need to buy a "male 3 prong plug" and connect a wire to the ground and lay the wire between the tracks , put the plug in an outlet.

 

When i first heard the tape, i thought all i had to do was lay the insulated wire between thr tracks.

 

Do I need to buy the plug???

 

Brent

Thanks for all the comments....yes it is a big one for a carpet layout. My computer layout planner says it's a little over 300' of track (Fastrack---which, BTW, solves the problem of oil leaking on to the carpet...the plastic roadbed catches it...at least until someone forgets and puts a car or engine wheels down on the carpet.  There are two long sidings extending into the other room.  There are 4 mainlines and each has a siding to store the second train so one can run unattended.  I've had all eight trains going at once....you gotta have nimble fingers on the Legacy controller, for sure and a keen eye to spot engines getting too close to the train in front.  I'll have a video to post as soon as I get it edited.  Here's some pics with the scenery and Christmas tree in place.  All trains are TMCC-Legacy controlled.  My wife "allows" it in "her" living room from November to January.

             
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Originally Posted by rtr12:

That is a very nice layout, any chance you could post a track plan. Or if not, dimensions and curve sizes. Very interesting! 

 

Thanks

Below is the track plan from the software "Anyrail".  I hope you can see it clearly enough.  Donno how to make the picture larger on the post but you can zoom in with your browser.  The dotted lines are "hidden" track (under scenery, or under another elevated track)  Dimensions of the layout are 21' by 76". The track inventory is below and does not include about 50 feet of additional siding for the two lines going to the other room to accommodate the lengths of the consists.  I used to map each piece of track when disassembling for next year but this year, I thought it would be easier to take apart in sections approx. 4-5 feet in length to cut down on the 2-3 weeks setup time (whew).  Thanks for asking!!!

 

Track & Objects

6-12014, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12014. Straight 10".        33

6-12015, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12015. Curve 18", angle 45º (O36)     4

6-12018, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12018. Right turnout 10". (O36) (manual)      1

6-12022, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12022. Curve 18", angle 22.5º (O36)  6

6-12023, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12023. Curve 18", angle 11.25º (O36)          3

6-12024, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12024. Straight 5".          9

6-12025, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12025. Straight 4.5".       14

6-12026, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12026. Straight 1.75".    24

6-12029B, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12029B. Isolated (block) section 5". 1

6-12033         5

6-12035, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12035. Buffer/Bumper (Light) 5".         2

6-12041, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12041. Curve 36", angle 22.5º (O72)  35

6-12042, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12042. Straight 30".        25

6-12043, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12043. Curve 24", angle 30º (O48)     38

6-12055, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12055. Curve 36", angle 11.25º (O72)          2

6-12056, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12056. Curve 30", angle 22.5º (O60)  21

6-12061, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12061. Curve 42", angle 11.25º (O84)          3

6-12073, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-12073. Straight 1.37".    13

6-16825, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16825. Right turnout 10". (O36) Command Control 1

6-16827, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16827. Right turnout 14.25". (O72) Command Control       2

6-16828, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16828. Left turnout 13.13". (O60) Command Control          2

6-16830, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16830. Left turnout 15". (O48) Command Control    2

6-16831, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16831. Right turnout 15". (O48) Command Control 2

6-16834, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16834. Curve 24", angle 15º (O48)     7

6-16835, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6-16835. Curve 24", angle 7.5º (O48)    8

6102047, 0 Lionel FasTrack 6102047. Straight separator 1.37".         1

 

Total track length:    252.75

 

Originally Posted by gg1man:

Very cool layout Rick. I like your picture with all those pretty faces around you too.

What more can I guy wont, beautiful trains and lovely ladies as well. 

Heh-heh....thought that avatar would get some comments   That was from a cruise about 10 years ago when I was younger, thin and better looking!!!

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