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While I'm at York I'm planning to keep an eye out for several items to help me build a Tropicana juice train, From what I've read about it Seaboard was one of the lines tasked with pulling the train at the start of it's route. I'm hoping to snag a Lionel Seaboard SD9 and a caboose to match but would like some input as to which cars would be a better match size-wise to the SD9.

 

Lionel Seaboard SD9:

 

The Lionel  6-9861 Tropicana Reefer:

 

Or the Lionel 6-17310 Tropicana Reefer Std. "O" Scale:

 

I don't want the cars hulking over the engine but I also don't want the cars to look dwarfed by the locomotive like my Williams Virginian Rectifier does to my Industrial Rail Virginian hoppers, they are a better match for my Lionel Virginian Rectifier. How does the SD9 compare in size to say the Williams GP9? I do like the graphics better on the white one but an orange train rolling thru the layout would look cool also.

 

Jerry

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A string of Tropicana reefers looks great!

I always wanted a Juice Train and finally put one together earlier this year.  Researching the Juice Train to Cincinnati, I found that it had several trailers on the train.  Thinking it might add interest, I chose to paint and decal my own trailers and mount them on home-made roadrailers.   I run 1 Premier Operating car, 11 RailKing reefers, one K-Line trailer, and 8 MTH 20' trailers.  The Premier Operating car is shorter than, but the height of the RailKing cars.

 

Here is a video of my train.  In the video it is being pulled by scale locomotives and when I run the train with scale locomotives, I add a scale MTH Premier reefer as the first car.  So in the video you can see the size difference of the Premier and RailKing cars.

 

Driving back from Naples to Atlanta about two years ago, I ran into the juice train coincidentally.  All the refers were white with the Tropicana logo.  I remember being a little disappointed not seeing one orange refers like the Lionel ones I have (6-173XX series), which really like and reminds me of the old tropicana logo when I was a kid.

 

 

 

Jerry

I don't know if this will help but I put two of the SD 9 on track with three of the

 Lionel  Tropicana Reefer numbers 6-17307 08 and 09. I was trying to give you a idea of the size. Hope it helps some. They look ok to me. I have some of those other cars you posted but I'm in lay out re build mode here and can't find them.

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The Lionel MPC cars are 70's era colors but wooden which is too old for the juice train and the orange 1990's cars are better for the 90's era. Both are undersized but the MPCs are more. The Seaboard Air Line had been replaced with SCL by the time these trains started. I grew up watching the RF&P pull this train. A better engine choice may be PC,CSX,Chessie or Conrail considering SCL and RF&P engines are hard to come by. As far as Lionel engines that could pass as SCL with some new decals. The ACL GP 20 the SAL RSD2 or GP9 and the NW2 are close to SCL.
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