Questions about Lionel 6-11108 C&O George Washington Pacific

4 chuffs, and this has to be the pinnacle of Lionel as far as detail on a non articulated is concerned. I think this is one of the last "Korean made" engines from Lionel. So the build quality is excellent.

The L2a mohawk would be a close second.

I'm not sure if this is a forum member but heres a very thorough review *NOT MY VIDEO*:

Beautiful engine. I haven’t seen any for sale though.

I love mine, great engine.

@romiller49 posted:

Beautiful engine. I haven’t seen any for sale though.

There's two of the sister locomotives 6-11128 for sale on the big auction site.

I think the only difference is, these lack the George Washington image.

I think this engine has a lower boiler casting which completes the look of a full, round boiler instead of the inverted 'U' that's typical on many die-cast engines.  Normally that round boiler look is only possible with brass.  A good find if you can get one!

Very nice engine, like the running portion of the video.

Thanks RickO!  Nice video and it answered all the questions I had.  After seeing it run, I am more interested than ever that my roundhouse needs one.

Happy railroading,

Don

Don,

Not sure what cars you might be thinking of running with it?  I have the Lionel George washington cars that Were issued with it and really like them (probably my favorite passenger train), but I needed to replace every window strip in the set, due to some splatter finish issue.   It was not a huge deal as I got the replacements from Lionel.  I think this is common to every one of the George Washington sets.  If you are looking for a set of these, you might ask about it.

Nice locomotive!

Hump Yard Mike - It's my understanding the complete passenger consist included a 4-car passenger set (6-15597), a 2-car add-on (6-15576) and a Stationsounds car (6-15575).  Do have some or all of the passenger cars?  Just curious.  Thanks.

Also, KUDOS to Carmine Crudele for his excellent video review which I thoroughly enjoyed as well.  I just wish he'd identified (by name) his LHS which had a very impressive layout too.

This is a very nicely detailed engine. For all the detail though, Lionel managed to leave off the number plate in the center of the smokebox. Many years ago there was a company called C&O Plates that made etched brass number plates for the C&O, N&W, and others. I got the correct number plate and a George Washington cameo to mount on the feedwater heater. Unfortunately the owner retired long ago and though I understand he sold his inventory, no one is making these now.

The George Washington started in 1932 and these engines received larger, rectangular tenders in 1938, so the model represents just a six year period.

For those of you that have this engine, how does it run at startup and slow speed? Mine had a bad case of Odyssey lurch. I just finished installing an ERR Cruise M and it runs sweet at low speeds now.

Ken

PH1975,

I have 4 car and 2 car add on pack and opted out of the sound car.

I bought the 490 eagle instead of the George.  I like the heritage of it being modified into the Yellowbelly Hudson in its later years, with the same number as the Lionel one.

Ken

I really like the  brass number plate on the front of the boiler,  very cool.

If there's any engine that currently deserves the Legacy rerun treatment, it's arguably this one. Superbly detailed and pretty much bulletproof.

Wow, that is one cool engine.

Yeah, "almost" bought one when they showed up. Didn't. Magnificent piece. Now I have too much stuff to buy any more. 

Took a quick phone video of mine. I had not run this in while.   Looks like the folks towards the end of the train may need to call maintenance for some lights..   I think the H7 has the same kind of appearance of an older brother with its water heater, flying pumps and I believe the same tender.

I bought my f19 off eBay a while back.  When I received it, the packaging allowed the engine to shift while shipping and the cow catcher was bent down very close to the middle rail.  I think the bent cow catcher was part of the reason for the great deal on the bay  It bent back easily and never had an issue since.  I did notice the oddessy jerk tonight, but that doesn’t really bother me, once it’s moving I just enjoy watching it.

I had the engine and the passenger cars and liked it a lot.  Unfortunately during one of my periods of , I have too much stuff and have to thin out, I sold it.  Unfortunately I’m in another one of those sell it periods.  I need to carefully think that though. 

If you want your F19 upgraded to Legacy, email me. I’m curious to see if I could convert this engine. Like the rest. 

@Hump Yard Mike posted:

Took a quick phone video of mine. I had not run this in while.   Looks like the folks towards the end of the train may need to call maintenance for some lights..   I think the H7 has the same kind of appearance of an older brother with its water heater, flying pumps and I believe the same tender.

Very nice layout, too.

Mark in Oregon

You know, I really like the detailing in the video, just shows how much work is there and how some other models that have come out since fall short. Wish some newer stuff would get back to this level of modeling.

@romiller49 posted:

Beautiful engine. I haven’t seen any for sale though.

There is two for sale on the eBay 

@Mikado 4501 posted:

If there's any engine that currently deserves the Legacy rerun treatment, it's arguably this one. Superbly detailed and pretty much bulletproof.

I guess I do not see Lionel reissuing this engine because it was only used on one railroad.  For the past couple of years, Lionel seems to offer engines with many different road names.  This allows a decent size run of engines due to the combined total of all road name offered.  Even with the Southern Pacific GS series, there are many different offerings of basically the same engine - just different detailing or paint.  Same with the N&W J.  I cannot imagine them offering this engine in any different road names.

I figure that is why we have not seen a reissue of the Dreyfus Hudson.

Guess we can always hope.

Happy railroading,

Don

@DGJONES posted:

I guess I do not see Lionel reissuing this engine because it was only used on one railroad.  For the past couple of years, Lionel seems to offer engines with many different road names.  This allows a decent size run of engines due to the combined total of all road name offered.  Even with the Southern Pacific GS series, there are many different offerings of basically the same engine - just different detailing or paint.  Same with the N&W J.  I cannot imagine them offering this engine in any different road names.

I figure that is why we have not seen a reissue of the Dreyfus Hudson.

Guess we can always hope.

Happy railroading,

Don

All good points about the C&O locomotive. However, how does that logic account for all the UP "Big Boy" models, when there were only 25 ever built for only one railroad? Then there all all those NYC Hudson models and PRR K4s models.

It would be interesting to see them do this engine again, as it definitely is something that they should try and recapture. Real question is, would they do it right, or give it clown colors, wrong bell, or a whistle for a bird.

@DGJONES posted:

I guess I do not see Lionel reissuing this engine because it was only used on one railroad.  For the past couple of years, Lionel seems to offer engines with many different road names.  This allows a decent size run of engines due to the combined total of all road name offered.  Even with the Southern Pacific GS series, there are many different offerings of basically the same engine - just different detailing or paint.  Same with the N&W J.  I cannot imagine them offering this engine in any different road names.

I figure that is why we have not seen a reissue of the Dreyfus Hudson.

Guess we can always hope.

Happy railroading,

Don

Or you can send me your TMCC Dreyfus and F19 and ill slap a LEGACY package in it, it would look exactly as if Lionel did it on the inside. Operate the same as any other LEGACY steamer on the outside

My George Washington train. The cars are a collection of GGD cars repainted and decaled with correct names/numbers.

Ken

Beautiful train and love the big cars!  

My layout only supports 18” passenger cars.

 Ken - Superb!