S-2 Turbine 6200 MTH Loco

Brian what is the MTH catalog number of this engine?  And/or is it a "Proto Sound" by QSI or is it "Proto 2 Sound"?

Either way the engine sound level (volume) can be separately controlled.  But the method depends on if "Proto Sound" or "Proto 2 Sound."

Ron

look at the bottom of your tender..there should be a round hole...you should see a silver screw style nob,,take a reglar screw drive and turn it counter clock wise to lower the volume and clock wise to raise the volume..the hole might be in the center of the tender bottom or tords the front side bottom....

This would be a "global" change in volume NOT just the "turbine sound" as Brian is asking about.

I do not have the box in front of me, but it is definetly ProtoSound.

My Train Guy is doing a Complete RESET from a Z4000 Controller today.
I guess we will start from there.

Thanks for the replies.

I will keep you guys posted

Brian

If it is a "ProtoSound" a reset will NOT give you a different volume level for the turbine sounds.  Since your train-guy has a Z4000 have him do a Feature 6 at 25%.  Also suggest a Feature 25.

OK. He suggested going back to Factory Settings first. I have tried #6 but that did not lower JUST the turbine, it lowered all the engine sounds.

Here is another thought. When I first took it out of the box and put in on the track it also Chuffed as it moved. My guy says No way. Its a Turbine. I said it Chuffed and he looked at me weird. I know what I heard and he says its impossible. The problem is after I tried to do several Rests on My controller I lost the Chuffing Noises.

I contacted the person I purchased it from and he said he did not add any boards to it when he owned it. I say, Is it possible that this unit came off the line with Turbine and Chugging or Chuffing whatever its called. Its the noise you hear when the wheels start moving and it gets faster and faster as the engine goes faster. I REALLY liked that feature.

Brian

Can you also tell me what the #25 feature does ?

I have another ?

I am wondering if I should purchase one of these Z4000 and get rid of my other controllers ?

I have 3 Z-1000 with 100Watt transformers. I am only planning on running 2 tracks at once, with possibly a crossover somewhere.

Whats your opinion on this topic.

BTW...Thank You so much..It helps

Brian

Brian, this is why the MTH number would be so helpful.  Now back in the day (2000/2001) I had the RK version 30-1149-1(ProtoSound).  It whoooshed not chuffed. This engine and tender measured about 25/26-inches long.  MTH also made a "Bantam" version that is about 20-inches long.  These used "Loco-Sound" which in fact chuffed NOT Whoosh.

Now if your engine is a true Proto-Sound then #6 will only affect the "engine" noises.  Whistle and Bell will be high IF the volume control pot is turned to the highest setting.

Again the MTH product number sure would be helpful.

On Proto-Sound this will allow the Whistle/Horn to be blown in neutral and also Bell button rings bell in neutral.  As factory set the bell will ring when Whistle/Horn button is pressed.

The Z4000 is a great power supply.  And if you intend to grow your engine roster to larger engines and/or Premier engines it sure would be nice to have.  But for what you have the three Z1000 are just fine.  But if expansion IS in the future I recommend getting the best power supply sooner rather then later, just personal observation. I never regretted getting my Z4000 early on.

I just found the MTH Number you asked about.
MTH # 30-1149-1
CAB # 6200
Semi Scale about 26 inches long

This unit was Originally Purchased in 2000

I have to get these Wooshes, and Chuffs down pat.

Thanks so much once again for your kindness and help.

starting over at 56

Brian

I forgot to tell you I just lost out on a ebay bid for the  z4000 transformer by .99 cents
Auction for Brand New in the box went off at $302.99

o-well

I'll try again

As said the 30-1149-1 is the RK I owned back when and it whooshed big time.  I was very happy with it until I found that Lionel had a scale version that was in fact made by Mike Wolf for them.

Also just an opinion, but I would stay away from used Z4000's and DCS stuff unless I had first hand evidence it is AOK.  Some of the very earliest Z4000's had problems and so with early DCS units.  

I have one of the Protosounds turbines, and I put a sound chip from a Premier SP Daylight GS-4, and turned the chuff down using the programming Reset 6 (one clink and one clank). Go into reset 6, one bell will sound, then push the whistle button, the volume for the whoosh/chuff will go down 25% everytime the whistle button is pushed. If you want the protocol from the MTH shop manual, send me an email, I will scan it into my computer and send it to you VIA email as an attachment. 

Luke, just curious why change the prototypical turbine whoosh sound to the chuff of a reciprocating piston engine?

Ron

well ask MTH on there batham baby S2 why they didnt put in the whoosh in them..maybe some dont like the whoosh sound..whoosh sounds boring to some..

I think most people don't like the turbine sound, and want a chuff, hence the later change.  I personally loved the whoosh when I heard mine for the 1st time.  FYI, feature #6 turns down all engine sounds.  So to answer the OP's question, there is no way to just turn down the whoosh.  You can turn down the master volume (under the tender) or use feature #6 to turn down all the locomotive sounds except the bell and whistle.

Good to hear you like the sound Sinclair. I have the Bantam S2 from an RTR set and the chuff is ok and understandable for an RTR but otherwise it's just technically wrong. I'm getting the PS3 version and am looking forward to hearing the turbine.

Thank you ALL for the much needed info. I always say, "information is Power" so thanks again for all the support. I am hoping to get some good results from my train guru today. He was calling MTH to see if he can take the turbine chip out and install something else on the board, or just take the turbine sound out all together.

You can swap the chip to get different sounds, but as for a custom edited sound set, I'm guessing MTH won't do that.

Scott, When I first heard my S-2, I thought it was messed up, then I remembered that it's a turbine.  I like it because it is different then my other steamers.  I'll be able to pick it out when I have multiple trains running.