Significance of 3rdRail's B&O baggage car and FDR's train

Why not eMail Scott directly and ask him?

I was hoping to hear more about FDR's train.

Jan

This is a C-15  50 foot baggage car that is unique to the B&O. It has nothing to do with any Presidential train and was announced by Sunset at the same time as the Army hospital car.

The B&O had 100 of these cars numbered 1500-1599 (hence C-15)  and they were seen all over the system  - mostly if not always used for sealed transport of mail and express between cities. They did not have end doors, and I would venture that they never carried an automobile.  For passenger trains that offered baggage service that would have been done with either a combine or a 70 foot baggage car.

The B&O did have some horse express cars with end doors and probably FDR's car was carried in one of those.

Thanks.  From what I've found out, FDR's consist included a baggage car, a couple of Pullmans, dining car, communications car (like Scott is offering) , and the Ferdinand Magellan.  This maybe incomplete.

I've found good descriptions of the two funeral trains.

Jan

Mr. Heil, any info on the truck castings?  and would you know of an underbody diagram for said car?

aterry11 posted:

Mr. Heil, any info on the truck castings?  and would you know of an underbody diagram for said car?

I'll send you an e-mail.

Jan posted:

What is special about this car?  Scott made reference to FDR's Presidential train when he made his announcement about the army hospital cars.  FDR would often travel on the B&O with a baggage car.  Does it have end doors to allow it to carry the limousine?

Any info would be appreciated.

Jan

There is a great book titled "The President Travels by Train" and I believe the author is Bob Withers.  The train always carried and end door baggage car, either a horse car or a scenery car, for the limo's.  The train also had a green B&O combine that the army turned into a communications car.  (unfortunately my book is in boxes waiting to move)

Jan and Burketrains - Yes the book " The President Travels by Train"  by Bob Withers is a great book!  I have it in my library.  According to this book the first car behind the locomotive ( Roosevelt's train ) was a baggage car which carried 2 - 3 automobiles ( presumably with doors at either end for on and off loading ) next was the B&O combine#1401 ( leased to the US government from the B&O ) used for a communications car.  This car was leased to the government for 10 years and  beginning in 1952 it was replaced by an Army ambulance car which was name the General Albert Myer.

There is no mention in this book of the photographed B&O single door B&O baggage car ( by 3rd Rail )  in the original post.  

BTW - this book lists the entire consist ( in order ) of Roosevelt's POTUS train ... 14 - 16 cars. 

Thanks Patrick.  I've ordered the book. 

I think that between 3rd Rail, Golden Gate Depot, and Overland, I should be able to model a passable train.

Jan

If you are looking for a picture of an actual FDR rail car which carried his automobile google Track 61.  The car sits to this day below the Waldorf Astoria in NYC.

shorling posted:

If you are looking for a picture of an actual FDR rail car which carried his automobile google Track 61.  The car sits to this day below the Waldorf Astoria in NYC.

Not really. That is a standard baggage car that has been there for years, and used as maintenance of way storage. The news media continue to tell that fictitious story, over and over and over.

Another bubble burst !!

Jan posted:

Thanks Patrick.  I've ordered the book. 

I think that between 3rd Rail, Golden Gate Depot, and Overland, I should be able to model a passable train.

Jan

You are most welcome Jan.  This book is a great read!  You will enjoy it I'm sure.

Here is a link to an article on FDR's "simple" funeral train -- 30 cars in two sections.

http://nrhs1.org/images/e-Dispatcher_April_2015.pdf

Jan

I do NOT see any "link".

Hot Water posted:

I do NOT see any "link".

It was right there actually......you might actually have to try to copy and paste them into your browser sometimes......

http://nrhs1.org/images/e-Dispatcher_April_2015.pdf

mwb posted:

Hot Water posted:

I do NOT see any "link".

It was right there actually......you might actually have to try to copy and paste them into your browser sometimes......

http://nrhs1.org/images/e-Dispatcher_April_2015.pdf

 

Yes, it was/is there, but,,,,,,,,it is NOT a true "link". You, however, did post a "link". Thank you.