Here's a screen shot of a video CountryBunkers train posted of a visit to the Lionel Retail Store.
Looks like that the color of the top. Again possibly pre-production models but if you check Trainworld and Charles Ro websites they are saying they are in stock. I've got them preordered at MrMuffins but haven't heard anything yet.
@bt430 posted:Here's a screen shot of a video CountryBunkers train posted of a visit to the Lionel Retail Store.
Looks like that the color of the top. Again possibly pre-production models but if you check Trainworld and Charles Ro websites they are saying they are in stock. I've got them preordered at MrMuffins but haven't heard anything yet.
No, that's how they really look.
Unfortunate. Glad I was able to get the F9s.
Noticed on lionelstore.com that the dates have been removed from the AC&W dome car and station sounds cars . . . also, and more interesting, Lionel is taking pre-orders on the 2 car heavy weight set that we are all waiting for. Hopefully a good sign that these are close to arriving and they have extra stock available.
@hirailsteve posted:Unfortunate. Glad I was able to get the F9s.
I feel the same way I don't know why Lionel would do this, why wouldn't they do them like the F9s? they turned out great. Maybe it was the original info they got from ACW and during the rebuilding process ACW changed their minds about going with the lighter color on the roof.
@bt430 posted:Maybe it was the original info they got from ACW and during the rebuilding process ACW changed their minds about going with the lighter color on the roof.
This seems the most logical. They did say when the catalog was released that they were basing the paint scheme off discussions with ACWR, because the locomotive (and dome car) had not yet been painted.
This speaks direc
@BAM Railroad posted:Noticed on lionelstore.com that the dates have been removed from the AC&W dome car and station sounds cars . . . also, and more interesting, Lionel is taking pre-orders on the 2 car heavy weight set that we are all waiting for. Hopefully a good sign that these are close to arriving and they have extra stock available.
Well this post just cost me $499+. I was resigned to not getting these cars or getting hammered on the secondary market. Maybe demand was such that Lionel was able to squeeze in a second/supplemental run. I hope the wait is not too long only if because I had to pay full price, not just a deposit.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a reliable source of product information to keep customers informed periodically or on a flash basis when warranted? You would think we were dealing with highly classified military secrets and not model trains.
Pretty sure you can sign up at Lionel store.com and get 10 off before you place the order. Before I knew that, I was able to snag the AC&W F unit set late in the game on the Lionel site. Was doing a google search and happened to notice one popped up as available there. Figured they did inventory and found one in the warehouse.
@BAM Railroad posted:Pretty sure you can sign up at Lionel store.com and get 10 off before you place the order. Before I knew that, I was able to snag the AC&W F unit set late in the game on the Lionel site. Was doing a google search and happened to notice one popped up as available there. Figured they did inventory and found one in the warehouse.
Thanks for the tip. Did that. It took care of the sales tax and shipping. Heh something is better than nothing.
I passed on the F set as the renderings on line and in the catalog looked more like burnt gold than yellow; at least to me.
@Former Member posted:Thanks for the tip. Did that. It took care of the sales tax and shipping. Heh something is better than nothing.
I passed on the F set as the renderings on line and in the catalog looked more like burnt gold than yellow; at least to me.
Glad it worked! Hope you have the E units coming to you then to run with the heavy weights!
@BAM Railroad posted:Glad it worked! Hope you have the E units coming to you then to run with the heavy weights!
Yes, the E units looked more to my color scheme tastes. The roof coloring does not concern me as it does others because it shows more of the roof detailing than a black roof does. That and the raspberry roof color or whatever color you call it is too nice to limit to the sides and the nose IMO.
Except for the F units I now have or will have the full monty of what has been produced/announced thus far in AC&W except the TCCA convention related cars.
@Former Member posted:Yes, the E units looked more to my color scheme tastes. The roof coloring does not concern me as it does others because it shows more of the roof detailing than a black roof does. That and the raspberry roof color or whatever color you call it is too nice to limit to the sides and the nose IMO.
Except for the F units I now have or will have the full monty of what has been produced/announced thus far in AC&W except the TCCA convention related cars.
That's my plan as well . . . was hoping Lionel would do the AC&W GP-38 in that green livery in the last catalog, perhaps down the line . . . it is good looking.
@BAM Railroad posted:Glad it worked! Hope you have the E units coming to you then to run with the heavy weights!
Looks like they are sold out and no longer offering the pre-order option.
If you snooze you lose! Either you lose out or you lose the money spent!
@Former Member posted:Yes, the E units looked more to my color scheme tastes. The roof coloring does not concern me as it does others because it shows more of the roof detailing than a black roof does. That and the raspberry roof color or whatever color you call it is too nice to limit to the sides and the nose IMO.
Except for the F units I now have or will have the full monty of what has been produced/announced thus far in AC&W except the TCCA convention related cars.
I agree with you on the on the color. I did receive my E8s. Unfortunately, both units have some paint defects so Legacy Station is sending me a replacement set. It’s kinda cool to have a model that isn’t actually been refurbished and placed in service by the real rail road yet and that’s probably why the roof don’t match the one prototype on the rails.
I did pass on the F7 and first two pack to get the rocket booster train but did luck out on the 18 inch cars and the ones cataloged with the E8. I don’t regret that choice but would have liked to have those as well.
If not for BAM Railway I would not have snagged a pair of 18" cars from the Lionel Store yesterday. Evidently the window of opportunity shut shortly after my purchase.
My E units are scheduled to arrive shortly.
The roof color on this set and the dust up over the Trainworld Katy engine as delivered paint scheme highlights the vagaries of the preorder model if the manufacturer deviates from the announced version or for those for whom prototypical deviations ( intentional, inadvertent, or not) are a no go.
As folks my age have watched O/O27 evolve from toy like to more life like, I now think of the O/O27 gauge as HO on steroids. Manufacturers need to acknowledge and recognize this trend not only as they do in their offerings, but in their execution of the end product.
Unrealized expectations of the customer will come back to bite the manufacturers at some point.
Well there's still no signs of the heavyweight cars, but I did get an invoice from Trainworld yesterday afternoon for the ACWR station sounds diners and the dome car, so it looks like they'll be arriving soon.
@PSM posted:Well there's still no signs of the heavyweight cars, but I did get an invoice from Trainworld yesterday afternoon for the ACWR station sounds diners and the dome car, so it looks like they'll be arriving soon.
At least there is some movement! I ordered the Heavy Weights from Brady's and the Dome plus Stations Sounds set from Charles Ro . . . no word from anyone yet. Charles Ro did have the Stations Sound set available for pre-order up until today, but now they only show the Dome for pre-order.
This is unbelievable, the cars from 2023 will arrive before the original heavyweights from 2022.
It is probably by occident!
(Yes the spelling is intentional)
Trainworld selling the dome car for above MSRP, $349 (MSRP $299) and Stationsounds set for MSRP ($649). Charles Ro still offering dome car for $215.99.
@Reading RR posted:This is unbelievable, the cars from 2023 will arrive before the original heavyweights from 2022.
Maybe not as the Lionel store says that my 2022 Heavyweights are about to ship to me.
Woke up to pending charges on my credit card from Charles Ro. Most likely the dome car and Stationsounds cars.
@Bmurphy20 posted:Woke up to pending charges on my credit card from Charles Ro. Most likely the dome car and Stationsounds cars.
Same! Received a notification that the dome car shipped, waiting to see on the diner set.
@Reading RR posted:This is unbelievable, the cars from 2023 will arrive before the original heavyweights from 2022.
My 2022 two 18" car set just landed at the front door. Thanks again to BAM RR for the tip.
@Former Member posted:My 2022 two 18" car set just landed at the front door. Thanks again to BAM RR for the tip.
Glad it worked out, post some pics please!
@Former Member posted:My 2022 two 18" car set just landed at the front door. Thanks again to BAM RR for the tip.
Wow! I haven't gotten the invoice for those yet.
My 2023 diners and dome arrived, but I neglected to take photos before putting them back in the box. They are stunning, Lionel nailed the colors.
2023 dome car on the way. Still no sighting anywhere for the last 2 '2227390' 2022 passenger cars. I wonder if they are in country yet?
@Former Member posted:My 2022 two 18" car set just landed at the front door. Thanks again to BAM RR for the tip.
According to Run a Muck Chuck, who ordered directly from Lionel, he received his. I followed up with Brady's today and they still have not received their shipment. Hopefully in the next week or so, but they definitely appear to be state-side.
@BAM Railroad posted:According to Run a Muck Chuck, who ordered directly from Lionel, he received his. I followed up with Brady's today and they still have not received their shipment. Hopefully in the next week or so, but they definitely appear to be state-side.
Hello BAM RR. Sorry I did not see your post until this afternoon. I did not have a chance to open these before I left for York, and then I had to do some real work; imagine that.
For now the best I can muster is a photo of the box label to prove I am not fooling. The cars came from the Lionel Store per your heads up. Maybe I got the pair that Lionel approved before they authorized production?
Who knows.
@Former Member posted:Hello BAM RR. Sorry I did not see your post until this afternoon. I did not have a chance to open these before I left for York, and then I had to do some real work; imagine that.
For now the best I can muster is a photo of the box label to prove I am not fooling. The cars came from the Lionel Store per your heads up. Maybe I got the pair that Lionel approved before they authorized production?
Who knows.
That looks to be them! Believe the OBS date is the day it hits the water for shipping . . . interesting that these cars say October of 2022 -- which may confirm what we heard that they were shipped to Lionel and then shipped back to the factory to be remade due to the paint not matching. Heard back from Brady's trains and they have not received their shipment from Lionel yet.
The joys of BTO!
I have not yet seen an invoice for the 18" set from 2022. Looking at Lionel's recently updated shipping schedule, there are a bunch of other 18" cars due in November, and my guess is that they ran the ACWR stuff along with that, so I'm guessing next month.
Run A Muck, you might have (what I presume to be) a very rare set of "error" cars.
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@PSM posted:I have not yet seen an invoice for the 18" set from 2022. Looking at Lionel's recently updated shipping schedule, there are a bunch of other 18" cars due in November, and my guess is that they ran the ACWR stuff along with that, so I'm guessing next month.
Run A Muck, you might have (what I presume to be) a very rare set of "error" cars.
If so Ebay bound!
Now we really need to see what those cars look like!
Pictures yay
E8 AA
Nice to add these cars to the consist . . . finally looking like a real excursion train! Looking forward to adding the last 2 18" cars sometime soon.
. . . and fun surprise with the LCCA excursion departure/arrival with the station car diner announcements
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