I'm thinking about purchasing a Weaver Black Diamond steam engine however the only one left is a 2 rail w/o sound.
Who can add synchronized sound and smoke to 2 rail engines that don't have sound (Sunset Models included).
Thank you!
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I believe only MTH can legally do this for you. I am pretty sure they have a patent covering the electronic synchronization of smoke and steam chuff.
Originally Posted by Jim Scorse:
I believe only MTH can legally do this for you. I am pretty sure they have a patent covering the electronic synchronization of smoke and steam chuff.
Then how does Lionel do it?
I have put upgrade kits in a few Williams engines. It takes a little bit of fabricating some parts to help mount some stuff but it's doable. I have the 3rd rail Santa Fe northern that I will be putting in PS3.
I would wait for the PS3 kits to come out later this year. The biggest reason is the PS3 boards take care of the polarity issues the PS2 system had. PS3 can pick up the signal on either side automatically. Where as PS2 you had to flip a switch on the engine to run it the opposite way. Never understood why they did that.
Ralph
I would wait for the PS3 kits to come out later this year. The biggest reason is the PS3 boards take care of the polarity issues the PS2 system had. PS3 can pick up the signal on either side automatically. Where as PS2 you had to flip a switch on the engine to run it the opposite way. Never understood why they did that.
Ralph
ESU LokSound is astonishing in this area
Originally Posted by Ralph4014:
I have put upgrade kits in a few Williams engines. It takes a little bit of fabricating some parts to help mount some stuff but it's doable. I have the 3rd rail Santa Fe northern that I will be putting in PS3.
I would wait for the PS3 kits to come out later this year. The biggest reason is the PS3 boards take care of the polarity issues the PS2 system had. PS3 can pick up the signal on either side automatically. Where as PS2 you had to flip a switch on the engine to run it the opposite way. Never understood why they did that.
Ralph
I would wait for the PS3 kits to come out later this year. The biggest reason is the PS3 boards take care of the polarity issues the PS2 system had. PS3 can pick up the signal on either side automatically. Where as PS2 you had to flip a switch on the engine to run it the opposite way. Never understood why they did that.
Ralph
Ralph, they didn't do it intentionally. PS2 came out before MTH got back into 2 rail. The electronics were designed to pick up the DCS signal from the AC hot which is always the center rail in 3 rail. In 2 rail the "hot" be it AC or DC can be either rail. They didn't know when DCS came out that they would later on re-enter the 2 rail market and 2 railers would be using their electronics in a 2 rail environment.
I didn't realize they were in two rail before now. I guess I need to do more research. Never really thought about it either till I decided to go 2rail.
Thanks,
Ralph
Thanks,
Ralph
ask forum member Alex M.
The bigger question before sound, is what operating system. I am assuming this is conventional control right now. Do you want TMCC and Railsounds (great on sound but short fall is how chuff and smoke is integrated) or do you want DCS with PS-2/3. In which case synchronized sounds and smoke are probably the standard.
At that point you can chose your fan driven smoke unit and method to integrate.
For MTH nothing else needed. For TMCC/RS you need cherry switch or reed switch depending on how the engine is built.
I have installed MTH control and smoke on Williams and Weaver Brass, K-Line 1/48 stuff along with normal Lionel, Williams and MTH engines. E-mail in profile if you need more information. But to get the quality your after, you need to go with a Command style control system, even if you still chose to operate conventionally. The other advantage to MTH is that it does work on DC or AC. G
