Southern RR Fans- PHOTOS

Lionel Postwar Southern F3s and Allman Brothers’ Southbound:

c.sam posted:

That's a very nice looking engine you've created Joe.  The early RK RS1's are good candidates as well and they have the added bonus of smoke while the RS3's don't. The later RS3's do now but I don't know when they added it to the line...

Thanks, glad you like it! I have one of the RK RS1's in Southern paint, waiting to have the pilots fixed and detailed. The RS1 is one of my favorite locomotives, too bad the Southern only had one of them.

Joe Shipbaugh

Arnold - Have always loved those 2356 SR units. Joe - Will try to ind some photos of my SR RS1 and post hem.

This is a beautiful powered pair of Atlas F2/3 F3's I just received that are both DOA. Am trying to figure out what is wrong with them now...

c.sam posted:

Arnold - Have always loved those 2356 SR units. Joe - Will try to ind some photos of my SR RS1 and post hem.

This is a beautiful powered pair of Atlas F2/3 F3's I just received that are both DOA. Am trying to figure out what is wrong with them now...

Ideally, we would take these beautiful model trains for a test drive before we buy them because they are all at least several hundred dollars, if not more.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

c.sam posted:

Arnold - Have always loved those 2356 SR units. Joe - Will try to ind some photos of my SR RS1 and post hem.

This is a beautiful powered pair of Atlas F2/3 F3's I just received that are both DOA. Am trying to figure out what is wrong with them now...

Ideally, we would take these beautiful model trains for a test drive before we buy them because they are all at least several hundred dollars, if not more.

That is exactly why I for the most part buy most things from local toy train dealer (2.2-miles from house) or semi-local dealer (35-miles).

As an example when I order my Premier Erie Triplex tested it on the store layout (which help build) a couple/few hours a day for a week before opening up my wallet.  If something didn't work would wait until their repair tech got it straighten away.

Ron

I agree with Ron on checking them out. Over the 1990s and beyond I bought from Lil Choo Choo at Spencer and the Train loft in Winston-Salem  because I could depend on testing by operating before leaving the store. In 1980 I bought my first O-gauge steamers from a dealer in Memphis, a town I visited periodically on business. I was in a hurry that day and had a taxi waiting, but he insisted on running each engine on his layout. He canceled the taxi and drove me back to my hotel. That was a buying lesson and experience I never forgot because sure enough a rod dropped on one of the Williams Southern brass steamers (I bought Mikados and Pacifics}. He fixed it and of course became a valued source of knowledge and supplier of O gauge accessories.  

                                                                      NJ Hirailers

PRRronbh posted:

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

c.sam posted:

Arnold - Have always loved those 2356 SR units. Joe - Will try to ind some photos of my SR RS1 and post hem.

This is a beautiful powered pair of Atlas F2/3 F3's I just received that are both DOA. Am trying to figure out what is wrong with them now...

Ideally, we would take these beautiful model trains for a test drive before we buy them because they are all at least several hundred dollars, if not more.

That is exactly why I for the most part buy most things from local toy train dealer (2.2-miles from house) or semi-local dealer (35-miles).

As an example when I order my Premier Erie Triplex tested it on the store layout (which help build) a couple/few hours a day for a week before opening up my wallet.  If something didn't work would wait until their repair tech got it straighten away.

Ron

Ron, your lucky you have such a good local hobby store nearby that lets you test drive your potential new engines. Supporting a good local hobby store that is also diligent and prompt at making repairs is a very good thing.

Arnold

Here are a couple of Photos that Mr. Muffin posted of the new Premier Ps-4's from MTH.  MTH painted the front side of these tenders red behind the engine's cab.  I don't recall them doing that on any of their other Premier Ps-4's.  MTH posted a photo in a email showing the inside of the bell painted red which is nice added detail. 

The engine labeled Southern on the tender from the sound file from MTH website announces this train arriving from Birmingham as train number 7, the Kansas City Florida Special.  The Crescent Limited is announced as arriving from Charlotte, as train number 37. 

I really like the "Southern" version.  Mainly because it also has CNO&TP on it.  My grandfather was a fireman on the CNO&TP, out of Chattanooga during the era these beauties were running.

Lionel Postwar  Southern F3s:

Same Southern F3s hauling boxcars to the Tune of The Devil Went Down to Georgia by The Charlie Daniels Band:

Did Lionel ever produce the SOUTHERN PS-5 gondolas? 

My complete MTH Southern Crescent Limited consist.

One thing still not sure of, that is if the RPO car was in "Crescent Limited" livery.?.  I read that the Crescent did pull mail from D.C. to Atlanta.  But presumed using a standard Southern RPO car.  But have seen pictures in the "Ties" magazine where the front end cars appear to be two-tone.?.  Also have seen painting reproductions  with two-tone.

SO who knows?  They look good and it is my little toy train world!

ONE thing MTH screwed up the spelling of the South Carolina Southern Gentleman's name on the Club car a William Moultrie.  They (the Chinese) makers spelled it "Moulrie."

Ron

Nice consist Ron,

I have ordered the Crescent RPO from Jeff at the Train Loft. I don't know if one was lettered for the Crescent or not . But it looks good and along with the Crescent Reefer will give me a 9 car consist (which with a Ps- 4-6-2 is about four or five cars too long for my little attic layout).

My Lionel set has a lighter colored center band than MTH as shown in the partial photo below on my old mountain cottage shelf operation. Actually the first two cars(Baggage) are old K Line units painted to match Lionel's consist including the  gold stripe. K Line's cars  have a slightly lower roof line. The ACE Hardware Store in Banner Elk scanned a Lionel car and sold me a pint of heavily thinned latex paint which I hand-sprayed on in many coats.  However that is MTH 1396  (with correct green roof)  towing the consist. All my early MTH power was converted to TMCC by T/A Studios. 

Here's my MTH Southern CNO&TP Pacific that I picked up last weekend - I love the PFA announcements - they change stations at random, which includes Macon and Atlanta (I live in Atlanta)

Nice Matt. MTH did a good job. Is the Tender sub-lettered AGS for Alabama Great Southern?

Dewey Trogdon posted:

Nice Matt. MTH did a good job. Is the Tender sub-lettered AGS for Alabama Great Southern?

It's sublettered  CNO&TP for the Cincinnati New Orleans and Texas Pacific

Years ago I picked this up at local toy train shop which is directly cross from the NCTM.  Where they have a 120/150 ton Southern crane but in correct black & white.  Knew that but it looked good.

A few years later MTH remade these but in correct black & white.  Picked it up.

Not long ago sold off the green/white crane.

Ron

Good move Ron. For the longest time back in the day I could not find a black Southern wreck derrick or crane. About 15 years ago I bought an orange and white MTH Great Northern 250 ton unit with Idler Car from Train Loft. Kinda sounds dumb now but I had it painted and decorated as Southern and slept happier but poorer. Its obviously not Command equipped but looks ready to roll while sitting in the Service Yard.

Been awhile since anyone has posted any photos here...so here is one.  I came across this photo posted on NS Facebook page.  Interesting Marketing photo for deliving furturniture.  

I came across this post card a while back at Mid South Hobbies in Memphis while on a business trip. Someday I would like to repaint my Williams Brass Mikado to look like something similar. Has anyone done something similar?

I came across this photo on Eric's Trains of the new Lionel Southern Kanawha 2716.  To me it looks fairly nice; although, it's not as accurate as the MTH model.  I like to see a video of it and hear the whistle.

Photo of MTH model for comparison.  

Dewey, nice job on the re-paint.  That's one, no-nonsense, ready to work wreck train.

kjstrains posted:

I came across this photo on Eric's Trains of the new Lionel Southern Kanawha 2716.  To me it looks fairly nice; although, it's not as accurate as the MTH model.  I like to see a video of it and hear the whistle.

Photo of MTH model for comparison.  

Yes, the Lionel version is definitely very obviously NOT a Kanawha!

Ron

The Lionel version of 2716 is same tooling they used for NP 765 other than they removed the number boards and maybe a few other changes.  As Ron says above its not a Kanawha but it's Lionel attempt to make a 2716 without creating new tooling.

 I have no inside scoop on this but I suspect MTH will be redoing the 2716 in ProtoSound 3 in one of their next catalogs.  It  is one of few steamers left that they have not done in Protosound 3.  The Kanawha that MTH created in 2010 with ProtoSounds 2 as shown in the photo above is one of my favorite engines and most detailed engines in my collection along with one of the better sound sets.  I would recommend holding out for it if you are wanting to add Kanawha to your collection.  

kjstrains posted:

The Lionel version of 2716 is same tooling they used for NP 765 other than they removed the number boards and maybe a few other changes.  As Ron says above its not a Kanawha but it's Lionel attempt to make a 2716 without creating new tooling.

 I have no inside scoop on this but I suspect MTH will be redoing the 2716 in ProtoSound 3 in one of their next catalogs.  It  is one of few steamers left that they have not done in Protosound 3.  The Kanawha that MTH created in 2010 with ProtoSounds 2 as shown in the photo above is one of my favorite engines and most detailed engines in my collection along with one of the better sound sets.  I would recommend holding out for it if you are wanting to add Kanawha to your collection.  

Agree, one of my favorites especially since I road the last excursion out of Charlotte with 2716 at lead (no helpers).  It was about a month or so later taken out of service because of the leaks.  I think it was in Spartanburg SC where one of the yard crew  stated that water was running out as fast as they could fill it.

Ron

This video was posted on another thread by TrainWorld but I like the whistle Lionel used on their version of 2716.  I think it sounds somewhat similar to the MTH version.  

Did an estate liquidation a couple years back and there were quite a few SR pieces in the collection. I really like the steamers, even if they are MPC.

Timothy Sprague posted:

Did an estate liquidation a couple years back and there were quite a few SR pieces in the collection. I really like the steamers, even if they are MPC.

Nice looking collection of Southern locomotives.  I believe these are Weaver's E-8's.  It is my understanding that Weaver later sold these molds to MTH.

Happy railroading,

Don

I got these from Brian at Legacy Station last week.

Neal Jeter

Here is another post card I bought awhile back while visiting Memphis. Southern Ps-4 1408 at Reidsville, NC in February 1948. Has anyone here ever "weathered" their Southern Ps-4?

Yes, I love the Southern Diesels, beautiful color scheme....

Jeff C

Another post card I found while in Memphis. 1947 The Southerner heading North bound over Lake Pontchartrain.

Southern 2-8-0  #610 at Rock Spring  Georgia

These were taken at Spencer Shops in NC. I got a cab ride in this beautiful engine.

Pat Kn posted:

These were taken at Spencer Shops in NC. I got a cab ride in this beautiful engine.

Pat, when were you here?

Ron