This past weekend was the first time I had these F3s coupled with their matching passenger cars! Unfortunately, the first time I ran the passenger cars 2 years ago (behind the NS Southern Heritage unit), I dropped the rear car while putting it away. If you look on the upper-right of the roof-mounted light, you can see where it landed. I considered trying to fix this. Any input on which touch-up white paint I should use?
I picked up this brass pulpwood car from ebay last week.
Neal Jeter
Nice workhorse car Neal. Logs appear more realistic than on one I bought back in the day. I had to cut real logs to replace the plastic, like the logs on the car in front. ('97 Condo, 15x25 layout--demolished 2009).
Mike
When I painted the center band of the two headend K-Line cars to match the Southern cars (fuzzy car 3rd photo back), I took a Southern car to a rural Ace Hardware in the mountains and they computer matched a semi-gloss until they got a decent match. I did several headend cars to create a 13 car consist. Part of a twin shelf, 5 track airborne, 15x32. (built '92 demolished in 2008)
As Dewey posted a few posts back, I now have joined the Tennessean fraternity! It took me over five years to join! I made a video of Weaver Southern Tennessean along with giving a short history of the real engine. When taking this engine out of box for the first time, I found this engine to be more impressive in person than any photos I have seen. The engine has the QSI electronics as shown in my video but I will have it updated to ProtoSounds 3 with ProtoSmoke in the near future.
Thanks for sharing the video. I had mine converted to TMCC with Railsounds by Mike Reagan at TrainAmerica Studios many years ago.
Very nice video Kris. You now have the Queen of your roster and shes an impressive one at that. As Neal did i had one of mine converted to TMCC by Mike Reagan/Phil Hull at TA Studios. The other one was converted by the Tech at Weaver. I have owned three : sold one to SRR Sean , one of the two I now have because my son said he wanted one. But marriage and two young daughters later I doubt he will take it. Anyway he has all of my Southern HO brass collection.
Thanks, Dewey. I was not sure if I was ever going to get the Tennessean on my roster. I am sending off the engine this week to have upgraded to ProtoSound 3, Protosmoke, and LED lightening.
Ive been trying to find the part number for the Southern 2716 LC+2.0 engine so I can order it on the early order deal. Ryan Kunkle spoke about it in 2 different FB shows (ryan and dave show 2019 catalog) (trainworld show 2019 catalog) and the notch 6 podcast. I'm really wanting to get that engine! Any of you have information that could lead to finding the part number for it? Called Ro, Trainworld, Lionel (waiting to hear back from them) and messaged Dave Olson here on OGR.
Edit: Lionel contacted me!! YAY!!! If yall want one its # 1932050
Jim
Kris, where did you find those great photos of the prototype? Can you post them here?
David
How many different versions of "The Crescent Limited" do you have? While doing a recent inventory, I realized I have 5 versions.
Lionel 6-8702 and the matching cars were my first.
Second was a set of Williams 2515 Cars. I used to pull these with the Lionel 6-8702. Today I have them with a Williams 5104 Mikado.
Third is a Williams 5013 Ps4 Locomotive with Williams 2404 80' Crescent Limited Cars. The color window strips are nice.
Fourth is a MTH 20-3466-1 Ps4 pulling K-Line 4486 series Crescent Cars. 7 passenger cars + Express baggage Box Car.
Last is Lionel 6-31713 Set with 6-52363 Express Box Car, 6-15517 2 car set and 6-15520 Station Sound Dinner.
So, what do you have?
No Crescent Limited for me yet. But I did get the new LC and LC+2.0 engines on pre order! Finally got Nassau Hobby to order them and they got confirmation that my information about the Berkshire LC+2.0 was correct and we have one of those along with the LC engine offered by itself. I guess my order was the first because Lionel was shocked that I had the information LOL I must be the only Southern fan that watches all of Lionel's Facebook live and Notch 6 podcasts about Lionel stuff!! : )
Jim
Tom Morris posted:How many different versions of "The Crescent Limited" do you have? While doing a recent inventory, I realized I have 5 versions.
So, what do you have?
Tom,
Great photos of all you Crescent Limited Engines and Passenger Cars. Crescent Limited is my favorite engine as I have 6 Crescent Limited Engines.
1. My first Crescent Limited engine was Lionel 6-8702 with matching passenger cars. I received this set on Christmas morning when I was about 10 years old.
2. My next Crescent Limited engine, I received for Christmas about 25 years later, MTH RailKing ProtoSound 1, 30-1125-1
3. I was impressed with smoke output of the MTH RailKing version, so I needed to get the MTH Premier ProtoSound 2 version. 20-3102-1
4. Then I got the Lionel Legacy with whistle smoke cataloged in 2012.
5. I then got the MTH Premier ProtoSound 3, Queen & Crescent Limited, 20-3465-1, in order to double head them with my MTH Premier ProtoSound 2 engine.
6 This past Christmas I got the New Lionel Legacy with whistle smoke in the black pain scheme.
I have 4 Set's of Crescent Limited Passenger Car Sets. Lionel 0'27 set that matches my 6-8702 Crescent Limited engine.
Lionel Passenger Car Set with Green Tinted Windows. This set was cataloged with the Lionel Legacy with whistle smoke steam engine in 2012. (Not my Photo)
K-line Heavyweight 5 Car Passenger Set in the early 2000's.
Lionel Heavyweight 4 Car Passenger Set from 2003 Crescent Limited set along with the Station Sounds Diner Car. (Not my Photo)
K-Line Express Mail Refeer Box Car
Lionel ChicagoLand Lionel Railrold Club Mail Refeer Boxcar
Thanks for posting your different Crescent Limited Kris. Let's see if anyone else will share.
Atlas O shipped these recently. Southern nine panel 70 ton hopper.
If anyone has MTH's Southern 5-car passenger set (20-65271) from 2016 v1, would you please tell me the three coach car names? For some reason the MTH page does not list them like usual and the stock photo lacks the resolution to read them. I've inquired with MTH, but no response yet. Thanks in advance.
Many times, I've read that when the Freedom Train housed 4449 in the SRR steam shop while RDG 2101 was taking the train through the Northeast. When the GS-4 was moved to meet the train in Washington DC, the SRR steam crew was in the cab, marveling at how well the SP 4-8-4 ran. I think I remember reading of Bill Purdie saying he'd never gone that fast without something coming apart.
Anyway, over the years I've heard rumors that Purdie and his team tried to keep the 4449 in SRR hands for a season or two after the Freedom train was done at the end of 1976. I've also heard that if he'd been able to have her for a while, he was going to paint her in a paint job sort of like the Tennessean was:
My question is this; did the SRR people ever put down on paper what the intention had been, had they managed to get the GS-4 for a while?
One of my best friends, has a GS-4 in O scale and is looking to paint it up as Purdie might have. I wonder if anything ever got written down as to what they'd intended to pay 4449?
The Weaver Tennesseean and K-Line Southern Crescent offerings were some of the earliest O scale trains I acquired - just beautiful.
Attached is some more information about the K-Line offerings for the Southern Crescent. The 5-car heavyweight set from 2001 in the black/yellow boxes has the detailed interiors and streamlighting. There was an earlier 5-car heavyweight set from about a decade earlier in the older-style black boxes with gold lettering in the early 
1990s with silhouette windows and four interior bulbs, and an RPO and express reefer added a few years later - see above. I would like one day to make a Frankenstein set, putting these shells on a newer set to create an 11-car heavyweight consist with two observation cars, or 10-car consist with one observation. With all the little bulbs in about 10 streamlighting cars, will that draw too much power?
David
RidgeRunner posted:If anyone has MTH's Southern 5-car passenger set (20-65271) from 2016 v1, would you please tell me the three coach car names? For some reason the MTH page does not list them like usual and the stock photo lacks the resolution to read them. I've inquired with MTH, but no response yet. Thanks in advance.
Unfortunately, I don't have this set of cars so I can't tell you the names on them but I bought similar set of Southern Streamlined passanger cars that were catalog in 2017, MTH 20-65282. They are nice set of Southern Passanger cars.
I suggested to MTH a few days ago to make a set of Southern Streamlined Passanger Cars with shiny chrome plated sides similar to the streamlined cars they have recently made for SantaFe and California Zephyr road names. It seems like they make these Southern Streamlined cars every few years so with any luck they might do them with the plated sides for the next run.
kjstrains posted:RidgeRunner posted:If anyone has MTH's Southern 5-car passenger set (20-65271) from 2016 v1, would you please tell me the three coach car names? For some reason the MTH page does not list them like usual and the stock photo lacks the resolution to read them. I've inquired with MTH, but no response yet. Thanks in advance.
Unfortunately, I don't have this set of cars so I can't tell you the names on them but I bought similar set of Southern Streamlined passanger cars that were catalog in 2017, MTH 20-65282. They are nice set of Southern Passanger cars.
I suggested to MTH a few days ago to make a set of Southern Streamlined Passanger Cars with shiny chrome plated sides similar to the streamlined cars they have recently made for SantaFe and California Zephyr road names. It seems like they make these Southern Streamlined cars every few years so with any luck they might do them with the plated sides for the next run.
Thanks for your reply, Kris. Back in Dec 2017, I asked the same question here about your 20-65282 set. I'm trying to round up certain cars from the 1941 Tennessean streamlined train. I've had good success using the MTH Locator advanced search to identify what they've made so far, the exception being the 20-65271 set.
I've also suggested to MTH they add the Pullman sleeper model to their Madison line. Then they could make two-car Standard heavyweight sleeper sets. The Southern sleeper cars were painted silver to match the 1941 Tennessean streamlined consist. FWIW, those cars were Brentwood, Dahlonega, Knickerbocker, Puritan, Villa Heights, Villa Nova and Villa Verde. It would make an interesting mix for Southern fans.
Bryan
Does anyone have a video or photos of Lionel’s Southern SD40 and SD45 together?
Thanks
Glad to see one of my favorite threads is still alive and kicking since I've been go away for a while.
Some of my photo's are old but the wall of trains is new in my new home office.
You can see why I went with the name Southern Railway Sean!
Just received this from Brian at Legacy Station. Lionel 86' four door high cube boxcar.
Neal Jeter
Lionlman posted:Just received this from Brian at Legacy Station. Lionel 86' four door high cube boxcar.
Neal Jeter
Very nice! Awaiting mine from TrainWorld.
Bryan
Here's the other road number for the 86' high cube.
Southern had six of these St. Louis built, Fairbanks Morse diesel powered units. They were delivered in August 1939 and used on low traffic lines. They were air conditioned and the power unit contained a baggage/mail section and a coach section. Rear truck was powered by two 400HP traction motors.
Source: The Southern Railway Handbook, page 60
The train names were The Vulcan, The Joe Wheeler, The Cracker , The Goldenrod.
Neal Jeter
Sure wish a manufacturer would make one. I would get one in a heart beat!
Unless Third Rail offers one I don't think we will ever see it, and I doubt there would be enough interest to make it feasible. A skilled modeler might be able to bash one from a CB&Q Zephyr, but it would be a lot of work.
SouthernMike posted:Southern had six of these St. Louis built, Fairbanks Morse diesel powered units. They were delivered in August 1939 and used on low traffic lines. They were air conditioned and the power unit contained a baggage/mail section and a coach section. Rear truck was powered by two 400HP traction motors.
Source: The Southern Railway Handbook, page 60
Lionlman posted:The train names were The Vulcan, The Joe Wheeler, The Cracker , The Goldenrod.
Neal Jeter
Mike and Neil;
Thanks for the history. In enlarging the picture, it is of The Cracker. I really like the livery.
Lionel - PS-4 with Southern 40' Trailer
While on a business trip in the Carolina's this past week, I did find some time to stop at Spencer and look around. I saw the restored "Wave" box car.
This got me thinking about some of my Southern box cars I have in my collection. Here is a sampling:
InterMountain 40' Box Car
Pecos River 50' Double Door
MTH 40' Box Car
Atlas Trainman 40' Box Car
Weaver/P&D Hobby Special Run 40' Box Car
Lionel "Wave"
Last is K-Line.
Hope you enjoy! Happy Father's Day!
Tom Morris posted:While on a business trip in the Carolina's this past week, I did find some time to stop at Spencer and look around. I saw the restored "Wave" box car.
This got me thinking about some of my Southern box cars I have in my collection. Here is a sampling:
InterMountain 40' Box Car
Pecos River 50' Double Door
MTH 40' Box Ca
Atlas Trainman 40' Box
Weaver/P&D Hobby Special Run 40' Box Car
Lionel "Wave"
Last is K-Line.
Hope you enjoy! Happy Father's Day!
Tom, did you stop across the street at the "Little Choo Choo Shop" toy train dealer?
Also I did not know that Lionel made a "wave" box car. Mine is a MTH.
Ron
Hi Ron,
The Little Choo Choo Shop was closed due to a power outage. The Lionel number is 6-29257.
Tom
Tom Morris posted:While on a business trip in the Carolina's this past week, I did find some time to stop at Spencer and look around. I saw the restored "Wave" box car.
Tom
Nice photo of the Wave Box Car at Spencer! The last photo I saw of it was sitting outside so it looks like they moved it inside. I assume they want to better preserve it from the weather. Maybe I can visit there again later this summer while I am visiting family in the Carolinas.
Also, nice photos of your Southern Boxcars! I picked up the new RailKing version of Wave Boxcar a few months ago.
Tom Morris posted:Hi Ron,
The Little Choo Choo Shop was closed due to a power outage. The Lionel number is 6-29257.
Tom
That is ironic, I was at the Spencer Post Office posting out an order to Mr. Muffins trains about 2:30 PM just after the power went out. Was going to stop by the Choo-Choo but figured they may be closed.
Ron
From the thread on the new Lionel catalog there’s a 21” Southern Railway vista dome “1613” coming in 2020.
They are also doing the Norfolk & Western in the same number for the visita dome car. Not exactly like the real Vista dome car when it was in the Southern Roadname but somewhat close. Expensive with a camera.
Lionlman is correct in the below post I posted the wrong real Southern Visita Dome car above. Thanks for pointing that out.
Southern had two vista dome cars. The one in the catalog is close to Southern’s 1613. Your picture above is of Southern’s 1602.
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